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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Kater MogginKater Moggin Date: Jul 14, 2007 12:45
Kater Moggin :
>> You're in a fog, or maybe a hazy shade of winter, since to
>> call freedom "the ability to do as one wills" is clear and
>> understandable regardless how many people are living in Toronto
>> these days.
michael gmail.com>:
> so, one of those clear and distinct ideas that cannot be doubted of,
> huh?
So you're confusing the lack of freedom in this world with
fuzziness in the word's meaning.
> so much for one kind of "necesssity" refusing to absent itself...
> not to mention the body and its incessant demand for food and toilet
> paper, the absence of which body would somewhat put the kibosh on that
> "will"... or the simple fact of there being no circumstance that is
> circumstance-free or that does not apply a pressure...
> and being as the six billion plus just will not go away, the absence of
> "constraint in choice or action" seems equally unlikely to present
> itself...
> which leaves "coercion", absence thereof... so which of the six
> billion do we imagine has ever found itself unforced "by imposed
> stricture, restriction or limitation"? single mom dies at the instant of
> birth on a desert island and Huxleyan birds drop round and feed the wild
> child rather than chanting "here and now, boys, here and now"?...
> the clarity of such a definition is clearly an illusion...
Non sequitur, dude. The absence of freedom doesn't entail
unclarity in its definition.
> to every horizon... having never really been able to rise above a
> strictly monist materalism, i've never felt any temptation or compulsion
> to reconcile that which "exist[s] as a mental image or in fancy or
You reply to the world's unfreedoms by contending that the
word "freedom" is misdefined
-- i.e., you're following
alt.fenceposts.are.atheists, where the dictionary is considered
a malicious conspiracy.
-- Moggin
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