> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by
> thinking machines. For thousands of years, society considered Mentats
> the embodiment of logic and reason.
>
> Unlike computers, however, Mentats are not simply calculators.
> Instead, the exceptional cognitive abilities of memory and perception
> are the foundations for supra-logical hypothesizing. Mentats are able
> to sift large volumes of data and devise concise analyses in a process
> that goes far beyond logical deduction: Mentats cultivate "the naïve
> mind", the mind without preconception or prejudice, similar to the
> contemporary practice of Zen, that can extract the essential patterns
> or logic of data, and deliver useful conclusions with varying degrees
> of certainty. They are not limited to formulating syllogisms; they are
> the supreme counselors of the Dune universe, filling roles as menial
> as archivists and clerks, or as grand as advisors to Emperors. ...

> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by
> thinking machines. For thousands of years, society considered Mentats
> the embodiment of logic and reason.
>
> Unlike computers, however, Mentats are not simply calculators.
> Instead, the exceptional cognitive abilities of memory and perception
> are the foundations for supra-logical hypothesizing. Mentats are able
> to sift large volumes of data and devise concise analyses in a process
> that goes far beyond logical deduction: Mentats cultivate "the naïve
> mind", the mind without preconception or prejudice, similar to the
> contemporary practice of Zen, that can extract the essential patterns
> or logic of data, and deliver useful conclusions with varying degrees
> of certainty. They are not limited to formulating syllogisms; they are
> the supreme counselors of the Dune universe, filling roles as menial
> as archivists and clerks, or as grand as advisors to Emperors. ...

> On Jun 27, 2:40 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
>> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
>> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
>> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
>> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by
>> thinking machines. For thousands of years, society considered Mentats
>> the embodiment of logic and reason.

>

>> Unlike computers, however, Mentats are not simply calculators.
>> Instead, the exceptional cognitive abilities of memory and perception
>> are the foundations for supra-logical hypothesizing. Mentats are able
>> to sift large volumes of data and devise concise analyses in a process ...

> On Jun 27, 2:44 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Jun 27, 2:40 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
>>> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
>>> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
>>> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
>>> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by
>>> thinking machines. For thousands of years, society considered Mentats
>>> the embodiment of logic and reason.

>

>>> Unlike computers, however, Mentats are not simply calculators.
>>> Instead, the exceptional cognitive abilities of memory and perception ...

> On Jun 28, 2:33 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>> On Jun 27, 2:44 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>> wrote:

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>>> On Jun 27, 2:40 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>>> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
>>>> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
>>>> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
>>>> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
>>>> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by
>>>> thinking machines. For thousands of years, society considered Mentats
>>>> the embodiment of logic and reason. ...

> On Jun 27, 8:58 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Jun 28, 2:33 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>> On Jun 27, 2:44 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>>> wrote:

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>>>> On Jun 27, 2:40 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>>>> As established by Frank Herbert, following the defeat of the thinking
>>>>> machines by humanity in the Butlerian Jihad, it was forbidden to
>>>>> create sentient machines. The Mentat discipline was developed as a
>>>>> replacement for computerized calculation, just as the Bene Gesserit
>>>>> and the Spacing Guild took on functions previously provided by ...

>> nicely backpedaled.

>

>> you need to learn your place..

>
> bofl:
> Spoken like a true groupie.

> Backpedaled?
>
> No need to.