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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:01
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
the limits put on the range of the debate. "
– Noam Chomsky
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Jun 30, 2008 14:08
ZerkonX wrote:
> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
>
> – Noam Chomsky
Marvelous. And from a mind as constricted as his. Ah well, Socrates
said sometimes its the fool with the right answer.
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Author: TruthSlaveTruthSlave Date: Jul 13, 2008 03:53
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.06.30.14.14.34@X.net...> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
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> - Noam Chomsky
Do you suppose this smart man was proscribing this smart think?
There would of course be the short and long term view of smart.
Perhaps 'smart' here, means 'the cheapest', the most efficient, the
easiest, or the most habitual thing to do.
Now i wonder what he [fore]saw as limits? When was this quote
taken?
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 13, 2008 19:19
"TruthSlave" home.com> wrote in message
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> "ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.06.30.14.14.34@X.net...>> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
>> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
>> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
>> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
>> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
>> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
>>
>> - Noam Chomsky
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> Do you suppose this smart man was proscribing this smart think?
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> There would of course be the short and long term view of smart.
> Perhaps 'smart' here, means 'the cheapest', the most efficient, the
> easiest, or the most habitual thing to do.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 14, 2008 00:25
On Jun 30, 10:01 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
>
> – Noam Chomsky
For example:
thinking that you're "white" or "black".
thinking that you're "american" or "iranian"
thinking that you're "male" or "female"
thinking that you're "higher" or "lower"
i imagine that the tools (like language) we employ actually create the
borders. so in some sense the bordering is inescapable.
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 14, 2008 03:29
"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 10:01 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 14, 2008 21:50
On Jul 14, 6:29 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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> On Jun 30, 10:01 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
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>>> "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit
>> the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within
>> that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
>> That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while
>> all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by
>> the limits put on the range of the debate. "
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>> – Noam Chomsky
>>>For example:
>>>thinking that you're "white" or "black". ...
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