>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 11:31 am, *Anarcissie* gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 12:30 pm, Don Salad miskatonic.edu> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Ya, it might help if he could explain this math proof of a supposed
>>>>>>>> God, or you could have pasted his proof.

>>

>>>>>>> Basic logic is .. god is all-powerful, and can create anything .. therefore
>>>>>>> he can create things that are self-contradictory. And because they are
>>>>>>> self-contradictory, they can't exist, so god can't create them, so god
>>>>>>> cannot be all-powerful.

>>

>>>>>> You can't create valid logic with imperfect concepts. The
>>>>>> concept of 'power' was originally conceived within the arena
>>>>>> of things that exist, or can exist, and not outside it. To
>>>>>> extend it to the arena of things that cannot exist merely
>>>>>> destroys the concept itself, so that it can no longer be validly
>>>>>> used at all. 'All-powerful' can therefore mean no more than 'more
>>>>>> powerful than all other sources of power'. God, as the
>>>>>> necessary source of all being, including all sources of power,
>>>>>> is thus automatically, by this definition, 'all-powerful'.

>>

>>>>> A simpler conclusion would be that terms like
>>>>> "power" and "knowledge" don't apply to God;
>>>>> they don't make any sense when they are
>>>>> supposed to be infinite. Hence the seductive,
>>>>> quaintly medieval silliness of this troll.

>>

>>>> An even simpler conclusion would examine the texts y'all
>>>> claim to believe in. WTF is your definition or justification
>>>> of god? What do you believe in and why? Can you prove it?
>>>> Or just blind faith?

>>

>>>> --oTTo--

>>

>>> VApolluan: ]just rmember our converstaion from 20 minutes before the
>>> WTC
>>> VApolluan: BANG TODAYS THE DAY
>>> Dayrose10: yeah

>>

>>> Thats from a 2002 AOL instant messenger exchange about a phone call
>>> between Diana and myself, before the event.Can you explain that ?

>>
>> George Bush was reading a story about goats?
>>
>> I know a guy who's convinced there was a conspiracy to get
>> us into a war in the Middle East, the plane crashes were
>> faked, and some US agency took the towers down. I figure
>> you got inside information...
>>
>> The only conspiracy I'm entertaining is that there's a small
>> chance flight 93 was shot down, and The Brass didn't want
>> to further horrify and humiliate the country with that fact.
>> It's almost comforting to know Machiav^H^H^H^H^H^H^HChaney
>> was in charge during the initial minutes.
>>
>> --oTTo--

>
> Boy, all that's really complex, isn't it? Would almost take some sort
> of Theory of Complexity to sort it all out, wouldn't it?