> "leo sgouros" gmail.com> wrote
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>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 11:31 am, *Anarcissie* gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 12:30 pm, Don Salad miskatonic.edu> wrote:

>>>>>>> Ya, it might help if he could explain this math proof of a supposed
>>>>>>> God, or you could have pasted his proof.

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>>>>>> Basic logic is .. god is all-powerful, and can create anything .. therefore
>>>>>> he can create things that are self-contradictory. And because they are
>>>>>> self-contradictory, they can't exist, so god can't create them, so god
>>>>>> cannot be all-powerful.

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>>>>> You can't create valid logic with imperfect concepts. The
>>>>> concept of 'power' was originally conceived within the arena
>>>>> of things that exist, or can exist, and not outside it. To
>>>>> extend it to the arena of things that cannot exist merely
>>>>> destroys the concept itself, so that it can no longer be validly
>>>>> used at all. 'All-powerful' can therefore mean no more than 'more
>>>>> powerful than all other sources of power'. God, as the
>>>>> necessary source of all being, including all sources of power,
>>>>> is thus automatically, by this definition, 'all-powerful'.

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>>>> A simpler conclusion would be that terms like
>>>> "power" and "knowledge" don't apply to God;
>>>> they don't make any sense when they are
>>>> supposed to be infinite. Hence the seductive,
>>>> quaintly medieval silliness of this troll.

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>>> An even simpler conclusion would examine the texts y'all
>>> claim to believe in. WTF is your definition or justification
>>> of god? What do you believe in and why? Can you prove it?
>>> Or just blind faith?

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>>> --oTTo--

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>> VApolluan: ]just rmember our converstaion from 20 minutes before the
>> WTC
>> VApolluan: BANG TODAYS THE DAY
>> Dayrose10: yeah

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>> Thats from a 2002 AOL instant messenger exchange about a phone call
>> between Diana and myself, before the event.Can you explain that ?

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> George Bush was reading a story about goats?
>
> I know a guy who's convinced there was a conspiracy to get
> us into a war in the Middle East, the plane crashes were
> faked, and some US agency took the towers down. I figure
> you got inside information...
>
> The only conspiracy I'm entertaining is that there's a small
> chance flight 93 was shot down, and The Brass didn't want
> to further horrify and humiliate the country with that fact.
> It's almost comforting to know Machiav^H^H^H^H^H^H^HChaney
> was in charge during the initial minutes.
>
> --oTTo--