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Author: galathaeagalathaea Date: Aug 23, 2007 23:12
In article <2limc3983vfpimvmapj1co5kknkqvgbllk@ 4ax.com>,
Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:
!! On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:38:46 -0700,
!! galathaea gmail.com> wrote:
!! But surely one must distinguish between the foundational
!! system of set theory and the bread-and-butter activities
!! of mathematicians for which that system is offered as an
!! account. I know that...
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Author: Angus RodgersAngus Rodgers Date: Aug 24, 2007 05:11
Yikes, cross-posted to 5 active and no doubt controversial
newsgroups! At least there'll be no shortage of replies,
so I can keep my contribution mercifully short for once.
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:12:28 -0700, galathaea
veawb.coop> wrote:
>now what is the _purpose_ of mathematical foundations?
For me, it's very simple: foundations are Chapter 0 of
the textbook, without which Chapter 1 doesn't make any
sense.
(But one doesn't attempt to /write/ such a Chapter 0
until one has read an awful lot of books, which I
haven't done yet.)
>platonists think there is something universal about this
> that there are certainties in math that are in some way absolutes
> that this phenomena we perceive that is mathematics
> a process we can identify/name and describe
>is somehow eternal
FW(L)IW, I think that.
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Author: Don StockbauerDon Stockbauer Date: Aug 24, 2007 05:46
On Aug 24, 6:11 am, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:> Yikes, cross-posted to 5 active and no doubt controversial
> newsgroups! At least there'll be no shortage of replies,
> so I can keep my contribution mercifully short for once.
>
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:12:28 -0700, galathaea
>
> veawb.coop> wrote:>>now what is the _purpose_ of mathematical foundations?
>
> For me, it's very simple: foundations are Chapter 0 of
> the textbook, without which Chapter 1 doesn't make any
> sense.
>
> (But one doesn't attempt to /write/ such a Chapter 0
> until one has read an awful lot of books, which I
> haven't done yet.)
>
>>platonists think there is something universal about this
>> that there are certainties in math that are in some way absolutes ...
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Aug 24, 2007 05:55
On Aug 24, 9:46 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:> On Aug 24, 6:11 am, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:
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>>> Yikes, cross-posted to 5 active and no doubt controversial
>> newsgroups! At least there'll be no shortage of replies,
>> so I can keep my contribution mercifully short for once.
>
>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:12:28 -0700, galathaea
>
>>>now what is the _purpose_ of mathematical foundations?
>
>> For me, it's very simple: foundations are Chapter 0 of
>> the textbook, without which Chapter 1 doesn't make any
>> sense.
> ...
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Date: Aug 24, 2007 08:05
On Aug 24, 1:55 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:> On Aug 24, 9:46 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 24, 6:11 am, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:>
>>> Yikes, cross-posted to 5 active and no doubt controversial
>>> newsgroups! At least there'll be no shortage of replies,
>>> so I can keep my contribution mercifully short for once.
>
>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:12:28 -0700, galathaea
>
>>>>now what is the _purpose_ of mathematical foundations?
>
>>> For me, it's very simple: foundations are Chapter 0 of
>>> the textbook, without which Chapter 1 doesn't make any
>>> sense.
> ...
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Author: hansonhanson Date: Aug 27, 2007 13:13
....ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.. the physicist is fizzing... ahaha...
"Markus E L"
wrote in message news:ygbqcsq18m.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de...
>
>>>>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>>>> Math is the software running within the hardware of Reality.
>>>>>
>>>> Han de Bruijn wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to make this quote immortal!
>>>>> Han de Bruijn
>>>>
>>> "Y.Porat" wrote:
>>>> and in to many cases
>>>> the fuckware of relality!
>>>> will there be no end to that stupid arrogance
>>>> of crook methematiciance ??
>>>> and who is the crimminal teachers
>>>> that educated those pomous farters ??
>>>> Y.P
>>> ...
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Author: Han de BruijnHan de Bruijn Date: Aug 28, 2007 00:46
Virgil wrote:
>>now you can see
>>why methematicians cannot be
>>leaders of physics
>>their hubris is a dsiaster to the advance physics
>
> No, it is the physicists who don't know how to use the math, nor how to
> find the right math to use, that are the disaster to the advance of
> physics.
Renormalization techniques in Quantum ElectroDynamics clearly indicate
that physics has come to an end. It hasn't to be "advanced" anymore (at
least not in the directions everybody thinks that are interesting). And
by the way, other sciences need more progress than physics: our society
is so primitive that it is in shrill contrast with our technology.
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