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Author: AKA gray asphalt
Date: Dec 28, 2006 03:46

1. Any two people should be able to get married.
- whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.

Marriage should be independent of sex. If someone is in a
hospital and have no living relatives, should they be denied
the right to have someone there with the same rights as a family
member would in other people's lives who do have living family?

Should that person have to be having sex with the person in the
hospital? Or should it be the right of two people to join in a
relationship to support each other, file joint tax returns, leave
propterty to each other in the case of death, and every other
legal right that 'married' people have?

OK, call every marriage that is done outside the church as a
civil union and leave 'marriage' to the churches. If you want to
call yourself married, go to a church and get 'married'.
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Author: AE
Date: Dec 28, 2006 06:42

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.
>
> Marriage should be independent of sex. If someone is in a
> hospital and have no living relatives, should they be denied
> the right to have someone there with the same rights as a family
> member would in other people's lives who do have living family?

These rights should depend on the will of that person, not on some
pre-defined contracts like marriage.
> Should that person have to be having sex with the person in the
> hospital? Or should it be the right of two people to join in a
> relationship to support each other, file joint tax returns,
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Author: AE
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:51

Daniel T. wrote:
> In article news.t-online.com>,
> "AE" nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>>
>>> and every other legal right that 'married' people have?
>>
>> Which ones?
>
> Since the question was asked:
>
> On the order of 1,400 legal rights are conferred upon married
> couples in the U.S. Typically these are composed of about 400
> state benefits and over 1,000 federal benefits.
> -- http://www.religioustolerance.org/mar_bene.htm

OK - I've worked through the (short) list provided on that page. I
don't consider to read thewhole list they are mentioning as reference.
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Author: Daniel T.
Date: Dec 28, 2006 04:57

"AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.

Why the two person limit?
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Author: AKA gray asphalt
Date: Dec 28, 2006 04:02

"Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:daniel_t-512616.07571028122006@news.west.earthlink.net...
> "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
>> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
>> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.
>
> Why the two person limit?

Do you want to be responsible for the debts of a dozen people? I'm not sure
that there is a good reason but it seems like a much bigger step than a two
person marriage, civil union. I should think about that.
Thanks
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Author: tg
Date: Dec 28, 2006 05:11

Daniel T. wrote:
> "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
>> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
>> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.
>
> Why the two person limit?

Because it makes enforcement more complicated and I don't wish to spend
my tax dollars on it.

Since we already have the mechanisms for two people, it doesn't cost
any more to extend it as suggested. But beyond that, you get multiple
spouses taking each other to court, for example, over inheritance.

-tg
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Author: Paulo Hendler
Date: Dec 28, 2006 05:21

I think that if anyone wants to have a partnner, same sex or not, and
have a currently live together this one, I can't find any problem to
share the civil rights in the case of death....But whether a person
share your live together a friend, to have sex is not important here,
this person could reclaim any rights? Whether in my case I'm got
marriage, but not in church and Civil laws, but the point is the live
have been shared day by day, I died then she have every rights just
because she is an woman,,,and she was just my friend, or if she has
the same sex..The question person have not any rights? I think yes, she
has...Then why the laws are so ancient? Why the politicals not
improvement the laws seeing the changes of the culture, ways of live?
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Author: chazwin
Date: Dec 28, 2006 05:52

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:daniel_t-512616.07571028122006@news.west.earthlink.net...
>> "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
>>> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
>>> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.
>>
>> Why the two person limit?
>
> Do you want to be responsible for the debts of a dozen people?

The more people the wider the spread of responsibility..

I'm not sure
> that there is a good reason but it seems like a much bigger step than a two
> person marriage, civil union. I should think about that.
> Thanks
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Author: Daniel T.
Date: Dec 28, 2006 07:22

In article news.t-online.com>,
"AE" nospam.com> wrote:
> AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>
>> and every other legal right that 'married' people have?
>
> Which ones?

Since the question was asked:

On the order of 1,400 legal rights are conferred upon married couples
in the U.S. Typically these are composed of about 400 state benefits
and over 1,000 federal benefits.
-- http://www.religioustolerance.org/mar_bene.htm
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Author: Daniel T.
Date: Dec 28, 2006 07:27

In article <1167311508.165265.275710@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
"tg" earthlink.net> wrote:
> Daniel T. wrote:
>> "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Any two people should be able to get married.
>>> - whether they are the same sex, same age range, and mostly
>>> whether they are having or planning to have sex or not.
>>
>> Why the two person limit?
>
> Because it makes enforcement more complicated and I don't wish to spend
> my tax dollars on it.

Do you wish to spend your tax dollars on 2 person marriage? Wouldn't
outlawing two people (legal) marriages be cheeper than extending them to
same-sex partners?
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