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Marin Luther was Right         


Author: chazwin
Date: Jul 19, 2008 06:52

Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
trampled underfoot.

Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
the house, to the closets.
Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and
reason, or believe in god.
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Jul 19, 2008 07:30

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT), chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
>Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
>had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
>not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jul 19, 2008 10:07

On Jul 19, 9:52 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
> trampled underfoot.
>
> Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
> she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
> whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
> foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
> make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
> would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
> the house, to the closets.
> Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148
>
> It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and
> reason, or believe in god.
>
> I choose reason. I will embrace the whore of the Devil, though she be
> eaten by leprosy. I will bear her up to avoid the tramping feet of the ...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: Langevinger66
Date: Jul 19, 2008 10:15

On 19 jul, 19:07, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 9:52 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
>> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
>> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
>> trampled underfoot.
>
>> Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
>> she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
>> whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
>> foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
>> make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
>> would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
>> the house, to the closets.
>> Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148 ...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Jul 19, 2008 10:41

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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: tooly
Date: Jul 19, 2008 12:31

"chazwin" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42fbb312-eb24-4234-93c7-469a7bc0e541@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
> trampled underfoot.
>
> Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
> she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
> whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
> foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
> make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
> would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
> the house, to the closets.
> Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148
>
> It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and
> reason, or believe in god.
>
> I choose reason. I will embrace the whore of the Devil, though she be ...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: tooly
Date: Jul 19, 2008 12:41

"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT), chazwin yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
>>had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
>>not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
>>trampled underfoot.
>>
>>Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
>>she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
>>whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
>>foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
>>make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
>>would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
>>the house, to the closets.
>>Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148
>>
>>It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and ...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: THE BORG
Date: Jul 20, 2008 01:51

"chazwin" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42fbb312-eb24-4234-93c7-469a7bc0e541@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
> trampled underfoot.
>
> Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being
> she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed
> whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under
> foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to
> make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She
> would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in
> the house, to the closets.
> Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148
>
> It all a matter of choice, either live a life or rationality and
> reason, or believe in god.
>
> I choose reason. I will embrace the whore of the Devil, though she be ...
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Jul 20, 2008 06:12

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:52:14 -0700, chazwin wrote:
> The concepts of god and the practices of religion will not and cannot
> submit to reason.

These absolutes do not work. Reason is certainly not so foreign to
religion.

The basis of modern scholarship comes from or through people of religion.
The modern concept of god is a reasoned result of a primary mover or
first cause.

However reason, if one enjoys it, is a two edged sword. The more you
know, the more you want to know. Some types of religion impose limits,
unreasonable limits.
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Re: Marin Luther was Right         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jul 20, 2008 08:14

On Jul 19, 11:52 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
> Luther identified the greatest danger to Christianity. Martin Luther
> had one thing right. He said that to beleive in god required faith,
> not reason. Reason, he said was the enemy of faith. which had to be
> trampled underfoot.

Thats why reason can be ignored, or twisted in religions, such as the
'reason' for celibacy. Centuries ago, it was introduced so priests
would not have any children to leave their estates to, and just
tonight, I heard an elder of the church state that one reason today,
was it would be to expensive to provide salary enough to support a
family.
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