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Author: J JonesJ Jones Date: May 2, 2008 11:47
"Oh Gosh, really? I scored 14 on the psychosis scale?"
- said the patient/guinea pig to the psychiatrist who was testing
various formulations of cannabis on her.
That was taken from a programme shown yesterday on prime time UK TV. The
woman and the psychiatrist were more interested in her 'psychosis score'
than hearing about her experience, which was merely tick-boxed for
manual and mental dexterity and 'illness' parameters. Her actual, real,
experience was to do with death and her paranoia about having that
experience (yes, ...I wonder why she was paranoid?). Her experience was
treated as unimportant, except of course that it demonstrated so-called
disorder, psychosis....?
What am I saying here, aside from the hidden political agenda of this
programme? I will tell you. Even though I knew the psychiatric
assessment of these realms of human experience is based on simplistic
illness/health divisions and various dexterity skills, it was still
shocking to see the hard, puritanical face of learned stupidity in action.
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: May 2, 2008 12:03
Because everyone (especially in science) has an agenda, all facets of
an experience/experiment will be slanted towards the predilections of
the individual making the claims.
My daughter just sent me an article from the Washington Post stating
marijuana does **not** cause lung cancer; the test purported to have
come from the “largest sampling to date” (however the article was two
years old)…
Live & let live, how fucking hard is it???
K e v
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: May 2, 2008 16:27
"kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ee6d25d2-03d3-42b3-af6b-1f95a41ff813@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Because everyone (especially in science) has an agenda, all facets of
an experience/experiment will be slanted towards the predilections of
the individual making the claims.
My daughter just sent me an article from the Washington Post stating
marijuana does **not** cause lung cancer; the test purported to have
come from the
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 2, 2008 21:56
On May 2, 11:47 am, J Jones aol.com> wrote:
> "Oh Gosh, really? I scored 14 on the psychosis scale?"
>
> - said the patient/guinea pig to the psychiatrist who was testing
> various formulations of cannabis on her.
>
> That was taken from a programme shown yesterday on prime time UK TV. The
> woman and the psychiatrist were more interested in her 'psychosis score'
> than hearing about her experience, which was merely tick-boxed for
> manual and mental dexterity and 'illness' parameters. Her actual, real,
> experience was to do with death and her paranoia about having that
> experience (yes, ...I wonder why she was paranoid?). Her experience was
> treated as unimportant, except of course that it demonstrated so-called
> disorder, psychosis....?
>
> What am I saying here, aside from the hidden political agenda of this
> programme? I will tell you. Even though I knew the psychiatric
> assessment of these realms of human experience is based on simplistic
> illness/health divisions and various dexterity skills, it was still
> shocking to see the hard, puritanical face of learned stupidity in action. ...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 2, 2008 22:08
"Use of street drugs (including LSD,methamphetamine,marijuana/hash/
cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased
probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has
been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done
mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one
example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about
their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those
who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600%% more
likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than
those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that
between 8%% and 13%% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna /
cannabis use during teen years. It is...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 2, 2008 22:21
On May 3, 1:08 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> "Use of street drugs (including LSD,methamphetamine,marijuana/hash/
> cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased
> probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has
> been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done
> mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one
> example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about
> their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those
> who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600%% more
> likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than
> those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that
> between 8%% and 13%% of all schizophrenia...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 2, 2008 22:25
'If you want to avoid getting schizophrenia - research suggests that
the number one thing you should avoid are street drugs (especially
marijuana/cannabis - but because you never know what someone has put
into a street drug, all of them are dangerous). By avoiding use of all
street drugs research suggests that you can greatly reduce the chance
(by as much as 50%% to 80%% if you are biologically predisposed) that
you'll develop schizophrenia. Avoiding marijuana after developing
schizophrenia also helps reduce relapse rates. Some people with
schizophrenia suggest that it makes them feel better, but if
depression is an issue we recommend these people talk to their Psych-
Doc about possible anti-depressant use rather than street drugs."
HTHelps.
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Author: Mike E. FullertonMike E. Fullerton Date: May 3, 2008 05:29
turtoni wrote:
> "Use of street drugs (including LSD,methamphetamine,marijuana/hash/
> cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased
> probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has
> been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done
> mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one
> example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about
> their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those
> who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600%% more
> likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than
> those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that
> between 8%% and 13%% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna /
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Author: John GraemeJohn Graeme Date: May 3, 2008 07:48
On May 3, 1:08 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> "Use of street drugs (including LSD,methamphetamine,marijuana/hash/
> cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased
> probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has
> been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done
> mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one
> example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about
> their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those
> who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600%% more
> likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than
> those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that
> between 8%% and 13%% of all schizophrenia...
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: May 3, 2008 08:25
"Mike E. Fullerton" spam-killer-remove-techie.com> wrote in
message news:VUYSj.111948$Cj7.90738@pd7urf2no...
> turtoni wrote:
>> "Use of street drugs (including LSD,methamphetamine,marijuana/hash/
>> cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased
>> probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has
>> been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done
>> mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one
>> example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about
>> their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those
>> who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600%% more
>> likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than
>> those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that
>> between 8%% and 13%% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna /
>> cannabis use during teen years. It is also notable that alcohol abuse
>> is a stronger predictor of psychotic symptoms than regular cannabis
>> use (by a factor of four)."
>>
>> http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html
> ...
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