> Hi,
>
> just a small pice of Kant apologetics, in order for the facts to be out
> there:
>
> Much is made by some of the proposition of Kant's "to make room for faith".
> That, of course, was not Kant's objective in epistemology; however, it was
> in metaphysics.
> Having through his epistemological investigations limited knowledge to
> conceptualization of empirical evidence, he pointed out that we have no such
> evidence on metaphysical matters; hence, there is no _empirical science_ of
> metaphysics. So, in this very field, he denied that there was any knowledge,
> contrary to what metaphysicians in general and theologians in particular had
> maintained over the millennia; everything for which we have no sensory
> evidence must be taken on faith if it is to be taken at all. But no one can
> claim to have real _knowledge_ in these matters.
> Of course, this was a heavy blow to Theology, and his formulation is a
> clever piece of salesmanship, in presenting this elimination of claims of
> knowledge as "making room for faith", which is something even a theologian ...

> On Jan 6, 11:47 pm, "Tron" wrote:
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>> Hi,

>

>> just a small pice of Kant apologetics, in order for the facts to be out
>> there:

>

>> Much is made by some of the proposition of Kant's "to make room for faith".
>> That, of course, was not Kant's objective in epistemology; however, it was
>> in metaphysics.
>> Having through his epistemological investigations limited knowledge to
>> conceptualization of empirical evidence, he pointed out that we have no such
>> evidence on metaphysical matters; hence, there is no _empirical science_ of
>> metaphysics. So, in this very field, he denied that there was any knowledge,
>> contrary to what metaphysicians in general and theologians in particular had ...

> Why would you be afraid that "reality" (in quotes) is all in the
> mind, whether Kant's or anybody else's?

>So you're confirming, as if it wasn't already, beyond doubt in both
>German and English that "reality" was completely totally utterely 100%%
>dependent upon Kant's mind,

> that reality was what ever Kant's mind wanted

> and needed so desperately for it to be?

> And you reckon that bothered the mystics?

> Hahaha you people are soooo funny.

>Soooo lets see and to read is seeing,

> On Jan 7, 7:12 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>

>> Why would you be afraid that "reality" (in quotes) is all in the
>> mind, whether Kant's or anybody else's?

>
> I'm laughing at you not affraid of you, but in reality, little boys
> are fucked in church by people whose reality is mind made, 3000
> victims 9/11 were the result of a mind made reality, zillions of
> freedom violating laws exist from a mind made reality and Kant's
> victims get to vote of course. Why do you ask?
>
> MG

> On Jan 6, 3:22 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>

>> On Jan 7, 7:12 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>

>>> Why would you be afraid that "reality" (in quotes) is all in the
>>> mind, whether Kant's or anybody else's?

>

>> I'm laughing at you not affraid of you, but in reality, little boys
>> are fucked in church by people whose reality is mind made, 3000
>> victims 9/11 were the result of a mind made reality, zillions of
>> freedom violating laws exist from a mind made reality and Kant's
>> victims get to vote of course. Why do you ask?

>

>> MG

>
> I'm certain that Ayn Rand would disagree with you.

> On Jan 6, 3:22 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>

>Much is made by some of the proposition of Kant's "to make room for faith".
>That, of course, was not Kant's objective in epistemology; however, it was
>in metaphysics.
>Having through his epistemological...

> On Jan 7, 11:33 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> On Jan 6, 3:22 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>

>>> On Jan 7, 7:12 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>

>>>> Why would you be afraid that "reality" (in quotes) is all in the
>>>> mind, whether Kant's or anybody else's?

>

>>> I'm laughing at you not affraid of you, but in reality, little boys
>>> are fucked in church by people whose reality is mind made, 3000
>>> victims 9/11 were the result of a mind made reality, zillions of
>>> freedom violating laws exist from a mind made reality and Kant's
>>> victims get to vote of course. Why do you ask?

> ...