Their is an absolute concerning majic that all of us on the group hopefully
share, namely, we don't believe in it, but wait... absolute? Well, there is
absolute and then there is absolute, know what I mean? It may be the case
that an absolute disbelief in majic implies that majic is real. Majic may
be real... but it doesn't have any power. Majic may be real... but it
isn't relavent or pertinant to anything. So what is the differance between
your absolute disbelief in majic based on my assumption that you do not
believe that majic is real and my absolute disbelief in majic in spite of
the fact that I'm convinced that majic is hypothetically real. I don't need
to teach you philosophy 101 for you to know that all things are
hypothetically real such as the chair I'm sitting in, the computer I'm
computing on, etc. I'm going to build a case for the reality of majic. We
all share the same view concerning majic but the differance is that I
possess knowledge of majic. Let's say that you're living in a house and one
of your housemates is a voodoo witch doctor. You've finished eating a piece
of chicken and you're about to throw the bones into the trash but then
suddenly the voodoo witch doctor says to you, "Throw the bones in the yard,
Kevin.... In the yard, Kevin... In the yard". Then you look at him
nonplused by the imperative for this and the voodoo witch doctor starts to
hyperventilate and clutch his chest and then you respond with, "Oh, yes, of ...

On Aug 14, 6:04�pm, kmurphy...@houston.rr.com wrote:

On Aug 14, 8:17 pm, C3 aol.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:04:56 +0000, kmurphy004 wrote:

Maj(g)ic (in your case) = suggestion of act

Real = you act on suggestion
Unreal = you do not

On 15-Aug-2008, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:

OK... I think I get the gist of it. It is just that if I reflect on my
actions, I get the impression that I've unwittingly cast a spell as an
involuntary response. If I may be so bold, God wants me to hunt witches and
I happen to be very good at it because if for no other reason, I don't
really care or see any point to it at all. Hunting witches is an acceptable
way to serve the interests of God, provided that the witch hunter in
question doesn't have the endorsement of any group or organization.

On 14-Aug-2008, C3 aol.com> wrote:

In my case, I consider magic to be a necessary evil. The ultimate purpose
of magic is to be its own undoing.

Well, I'm sure that psychiatry is not hating on me for having a girlfriend
so I don't see why mitches would be bad people.

To combat magic, I would imagine the imperative is to be on the winning
team. The challenge is to stop ignoring majic, which is why this is being
posted to alt philosophy. Philosophy should find magic to be seductive, if
only I can assure philosophy of ultimate victory on our part.

OK. So I'm faced with the dilema of having magic as being hypothetically
real but the chair I'm sitting is just as hypothetically real as majic...
the differance is my desire or will... so I'm going to have to cast really
deep into my bag of tricks and draw an analogy between magic and something
which may be completely unrelated to magic. You know, if you see a
scientist on the TV, they always say the same thing. Their prime directive
is to serve the interests of humanity. That is not what a real scientist
would say. A scientist is *anyone* who loves the scientific method. If
every scientist loved the scientific method, I wouldn't be having this hunch
that I would like to prove but don't have the resources presently to do so.
So until this hunch of mine does get proven one way or the other...

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:20:25 +0000, kmurphy004 wrote:

If you really really really REALLY believe this, and you are NOT still
going to school and living 'at home'... you may need professional help.

If so, however, stop watching TV for a while.

This is not meant to put you down or make fun..

Your reasoning is very unsound...

" I don't really care or see any point to it at all."

OK, check.

" Hunting witches is an acceptable way to serve the interests of God,"

WTF? I thought you didn't care about it, now you say it serves 'the
interests' of god?!?

See my point here?

On 16-Aug-2008, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:

What I mean is that it is frivolous. It serves the interests of God and I
don't understand why. But it is a lot of fun. You say I should seek
professional help because I'm having so much fun? What are you some kind of
Jesus freak or something?

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:46:15 +0000, kmurphy004 wrote:

right, ok then.