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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Jan 17, 2008 12:09
Maimonides presents a challenge to the modern reader because his view
of truth is totally unhistorical. We saw that he was guided by the
need to systematize. Given 613 original commandments, he argues that
all are means to the fulfillment of the first two, which he interprets
as belief in the existence of God and rejection of idolatry.[4]
Together these commandments make up what we call monotheism. From
Maimonides' perspective, however, there is more to monotheism than
belief in a single deity. To satisfy the first two commandments, one
must believe in a timeless, changeless, immaterial deity who is one in
every respect and unlike anything in the created order. A person who
fails to recognize such a deity is accorded the status of an idolater
no matter how many other commandments she may fulfill...
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Jan 17, 2008 12:21
I actually agree with Maimonides about the importance of understanding
who G-D is. I just think that Maimonides did not understand, and I
can prove that I am right and he was wrong. However, Maimonides would
never allow me the chance to prove him wrong. If he had his way, he
would kill me first. Am I wrong to think that the Jewish religion as
he interprets it is insanely evil? As you see from the blurb in the
Stanford encyclopedia and from many other internet sources, Maimonides
is universally respected among Jews and taken as Gospel. Therefore,
all of those Jews are implicated in the evil that Maimonides
represents.
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Author: jgarbuzjgarbuz Date: Jan 17, 2008 13:15
> Maimonides presents a challenge to the modern reader because his view
> of truth is totally unhistorical. We saw that he was guided by the
> need to systematize. Given 613 original commandments, he argues that
> all are means to the fulfillment of the first two, which he interprets
> as belief in the existence of God and rejection of idolatry.[4]
> Together these commandments make up what we call monotheism. From
> Maimonides' perspective, however, there is more to monotheism than
> belief in a single deity. To satisfy the first two commandments, one
> must believe in a timeless, changeless, immaterial deity who is one in
> every respect and unlike anything in the created order. A person who
> fails to recognize such a deity is accorded the status of an idolater
> no matter how many other commandments she may fulfill or how fervently
> she may fulfill them. Simply put, to worship God under a false
> description is not to worship God at all. Not only is this true at
> present, as Maimonides sees it, it has been true since God first spoke
> to Adam. ( Fromhttp://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maimonides/)
>
> From the 613 Commandments of Maimonides:
> ...
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Author: jgarbuzjgarbuz Date: Jan 17, 2008 13:18
> I actually agree with Maimonides about the importance of understanding
> who G-D is. I just think that Maimonides did not understand, and I
> can prove that I am right and he was wrong. However, Maimonides would
> never allow me the chance to prove him wrong. If he had his way, he
> would kill me first. Am I wrong to think that the Jewish religion as
> he interprets it is insanely evil? As you see from the blurb in the
> Stanford encyclopedia and from many other internet sources, Maimonides
> is universally respected among Jews and taken as Gospel. Therefore,
> all of those Jews are implicated in the evil that Maimonides
> represents.<
First of all, you guys have TOTALLY misrepresented the views of the
great philosopher and doctor Maimonides, who was doctor to Saladin,
who in turn offered his services to King Richard (the Lion Hearted).
He was highly respected by EVERYONE in his time.
Second of all, Maimonides, as great a luminary as he was, is not the
end all or be all of Judaism. He's one of many great luminaries, but
certainly not the last word on everything.
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Author: cindyscindys Date: Jan 17, 2008 14:15
PJ Nudnick operates from a padded cell. Don't waste your time with this one.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
"jgarbuz" netzero.com> wrote in message
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Jan 17, 2008 15:14
On Jan 17, 1:15 pm, jgarbuz netzero.com> wrote:>
> Maimonides did not give the 613 commandments. They are straight from
> the "Old Testament" Bible.
And you are straight from hell. Just joking.
Sir, you are hopelessly ignorant. Maimonides did give the 613
commandments. Although they are from the Torah, of course, Maimonides
selected them and gave a summary interpretation of the scriptural
passage. Before Maimonides there was no such thing as 613 Mitzvohs
that every Jew must perform. Maimonides wrote the Mishneh Torah,
wherein he codified the entire Judaic law, as he understood it. The
only problem is that he didn't realize that he could be wrong, and so
his commandments require Jews to kill anyone who disagrees with him.
Of course he is wrong about almost everything, as it turns out, and
hence the evil character of the Jewish religion as we now have it.
It is true that he was a very sophisticated man of his time, and many
who did not read his Jewish writings were fooled by him. What we are
talking about here, however, is his Jewish writings, which are
abominable.
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Author: cindyscindys Date: Jan 17, 2008 15:58
sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 17, 1:15 pm, jgarbuz netzero.com> wrote:
>
> Maimonides did not give the 613 commandments. They are straight from
> the "Old Testament" Bible.
And you are straight from hell. Just joking.
Sir, you are hopelessly ignorant. Maimonides did give the 613
commandments. Although they are from the Torah, of course, Maimonides
selected them and gave a summary interpretation of the scriptural
passage. Before Maimonides there was no such thing as 613 Mitzvohs
that every Jew must perform. Maimonides wrote the Mishneh Torah,
wherein he codified the entire Judaic law, as he understood it. The
only problem is that he didn't realize that he could be wrong, and so
his commandments require Jews to kill anyone who disagrees with him.
Of course he is wrong about almost everything, as it turns out, and
hence the evil character of the Jewish religion as we now have it.
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Author: cactuscactus Date: Jan 17, 2008 18:22
> I actually agree with Maimonides about the importance of understanding
> who G-D is. I just think that Maimonides did not understand, and I
> can prove that I am right and he was wrong.
So prove it.
However, Maimonides would
> never allow me the chance to prove him wrong.
Of course. He wouldn't give a nut case like you the time of day.
If he had his way, he
> would kill me first.
He was a physician. He didn't kill people, he helped them.
Am I wrong to think that the Jewish religion as
> he interprets it is insanely evil?
Yes. You are totally wrong.
blah blah blah.
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Author: cactuscactus Date: Jan 17, 2008 18:24
jgarbuz wrote:
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> Maimonides did not give the 613 commandments. They are straight from
> the "Old Testament" Bible.
Well and succinctly put. He apparently did not notice the references
after each mitzvah. Goes to show what happens to idiot posters when
they mindlessly copy something.
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Author: cactuscactus Date: Jan 17, 2008 18:28
> On Jan 17, 1:15 pm, jgarbuz netzero.com> wrote:>> Maimonides did not give the 613 commandments. They are straight from
>> the "Old Testament" Bible.
>
> And you are straight from hell. Just joking.
>
> Sir, you are hopelessly ignorant. Maimonides did give the 613
> commandments. Although they are from the Torah, of course, Maimonides
> selected them and gave a summary interpretation of the scriptural
> passage.
Which means that he did not "give" them - he wrote them down and
explained them. There is a difference.
Before Maimonides there was no such thing as 613 Mitzvohs
> that every Jew must perform. Maimonides wrote the Mishneh Torah,
> wherein he codified the entire Judaic law, as he understood it.
The
> only problem is that he didn't realize that he could be wrong,
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