| Re: Loss of due process and personal freedom in the UK |
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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Nov 20, 2007 20:16
On Nov 19, 6:36 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:> Blair and Brown have presidend over the greatest scam and insult to
> common justice, since King John.
> The land that provided the world with Magna Carta has shit all over
> the document and it is high time something was done to return our
> personal freedoms.
> The law has torn up Habeus Corpus.
> It is now legal to try persons that have already been acquited of the
> same crime.
> And it is now legal to be held without trial or charge for 28 days.
> When I was younger our family was horrified to find that my brother
> had been held for 24 hours without charge for being in a phone box
> that had been vandalised earlier in the day by another person. He
> could now be held for 28 days.
> You might be surprised to learn that the UK has the most draconian
> system in the Western world. The only other country that comes close
> to it is Turkey who has the power to hold a suspect for 7.5 days. You
> might also be surprised to learn the the USA can only hold for 2 days
> - but then cops usually just shoot who they like instead.
Actually in the USA they have the three branches of government that
are supposed to interact and come to agreements about the way things
are to be. Ove time since Wilson through WWII and other wars, the
executive branch has gained a disproportionate and increased power
over the ligislative and judicial branches of government. This
imbalance can lead to problem which the founders forsaw in other more
ancient style of governmetal institutions. In the USA case often it is
the judiciarly that can only track the behavior of the executive and
declare that behavior unconstitutional. This strange situation allows
for a time of lawlessness as the executive can experiment in
autocratic ways till the balance is restored. The decline of
constitutional liberalism?
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