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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: May 23, 2008 12:09
How does logic organize its elements? We note, do we not, the following:
Elements or variables are given two types of "special power": either a
power that brings them together or a power that keeps them apart. There
are no logically expressible elements that have no powers. Elements
then, are transcendental objects, and logic is transcendental because of it.
That is the entire realm of logical objects and powers and it brings us
sets, pairs, domains, etc.
In the physical world objects express their powers through forces, such
as gravitation, electromagnetism, etc. Like logical objects, there are
no physical objects that have no powers. But in logic powers are
enforced and expressed by visual cues (brackets, circles, dots, etc).
These show which elements have the power to stay together, or not.
The physical world and the world of logic are then, alike, in that there
are no expressible objects without powers and an object remains
independent of the activity of its powers - with the exception, of
course, of the energetic transmutation of matter.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 23, 2008 16:00
On May 23, 12:09 pm, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
> How does logic organize its elements? We note, do we not, the following:
>
> Elements or variables are given two types of "special power": either a
> power that brings them together or a power that keeps them apart. There
> are no logically expressible elements that have no powers. Elements
> then, are transcendental objects, and logic is transcendental because of it.
>
> That is the entire realm of logical objects and powers and it brings us
> sets, pairs, domains, etc.
>
> In the physical world objects express their powers through forces, such
> as gravitation, electromagnetism, etc. Like logical objects, there are
> no physical objects that have no powers. But in logic powers are
> enforced and expressed by visual cues (brackets, circles, dots, etc).
> These show which elements have the power to stay together, or not.
>
> The physical world and the world of logic are then, alike, in that there
> are no expressible objects without powers and an object remains
> independent of the activity of its powers - with the exception, of ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 23, 2008 16:30
On May 24, 9:00 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 12:09 pm, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
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>> How does logic organize its elements? We note, do we not, the following:
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>> Elements or variables are given two types of "special power": either a
>> power that brings them together or a power that keeps them apart. There
>> are no logically expressible elements that have no powers. Elements
>> then, are transcendental objects, and logic is transcendental because of it.
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>> That is the entire realm of logical objects and powers and it brings us
>> sets, pairs, domains, etc.
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>> In the physical world objects express their powers through forces, such
>> as gravitation, electromagnetism, etc. Like logical objects, there are
>> no physical objects that have no powers. But in logic powers are ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 23, 2008 17:43
On May 23, 4:30 pm, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
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> On May 24, 9:00 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On May 23, 12:09 pm, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
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>>> How does logic organize its elements? We note, do we not, the following:
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>>> Elements or variables are given two types of "special power": either a
>>> power that brings them together or a power that keeps them apart. There
>>> are no logically expressible elements that have no powers. Elements
>>> then, are transcendental objects, and logic is transcendental because of it.
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>>> That is the entire realm of logical objects and powers and it brings us
>>> sets, pairs, domains, etc.
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>>> In the physical world objects express their powers through forces, such
>>> as gravitation, electromagnetism, etc. Like logical objects, there are ...
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Author: knucmoknucmo Date: May 23, 2008 21:48
On 23 May, 20:09, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
> How does logic organize its elements? We note, do we not, the following:
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> Elements or variables are given two types of "special power": either a
> power that brings them together or a power that keeps them apart.
There seems to be nothing particularly special about this power.
> There
> are no logically expressible elements that have no powers.
Powers of what? Multiplication - commutation?
> Elements
> then, are transcendental objects,
Depends what you mean by elements, and in fact, transcendental, a
notorious term in Kant's philosophy.
> and logic is transcendental because of it.
?? That doesn't follow...
The rest was interesting, but I only skimmed it.
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: May 24, 2008 05:02
On Fri, 23 May 2008 20:09:04 +0100, John Jones wrote:
> That is the entire realm of logical objects and powers and it brings us
> sets, pairs, domains,
These are reflective or relative and can not be defines outside of a
physical reference.
> In the physical world objects express their powers through forces, such
> as gravitation, electromagnetism,
Might be the other way around. Matter being an expression of force.
There can be error in logic. I can not see this being any part of the
physical world. This distinction puts your comparison on thin ice, I
think.
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