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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Jul 1, 2008 07:45

On Jun 30, 5:21 pm, John wrote:
> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>> I said "academics": that is professional, tenured, University
>> researchers, not working in the private sector.  Try to find a study
>> that addresses attitudes to "academics".  The term "scientist" is very
>> vague.  Everyone has their own conception of what a "scientist" is,
>> and is not.  It's like the term "poet", or "philosopher".
>
> Tell us about your personal experience with academics. When, who and
> where. I'll bet we find it is some kind of dispossessed, bottom state
> school. Extended high school.
>
> When, where and who or shut up.

-- Three years graduate school in the laboratory Dr. Daniel Kahneman,
Nobel Prize Economics, 2002. University of British Columbia,
1980's. Also did some computer programming for Dr. Francis Crick, co-
discoverer of DNA, through Kahneman's wife, Anne Triesman. Dealt with
and had numerous conversations with other Nobel Prize winners who hung
out at their lab, at the time. I quit. My marks were good, but I was
disgusted both with the drug culture at the University of British
Columbia -- a biopsychology professor, Dr. Jon Pinel offered to set me
up as a marijuana dealer if I needed money, for example -- and with
the essentially dishonest and political nature of academia.

Kahneman's a Shoa survivor, grew up as a Jew in Vichy France. He's a
manipulator, by nature. Quite open about the fact that he has done no
work of the slightest significance. Ask him, if you don't believe
me. He does studies pointing out the fact that all academic theories
are basically oversimplifications. Without actually improving on
them. Now, his individual experiments show nothing other than the
intuitively obivous: academics oversimplify. His career as a whole is
rather interesting: he's won a Nobel Prize without actually doing any
research that can be applied to anything, or that adds anything to
knowledge, and he's been open about it.
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