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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: tadchem
Date: Aug 10, 2008 12:57

On Aug 10, 12:56 pm, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
> Humans live for average 100 years.
>
> Some trees live for 500 Years
>
> Tortoise lives for 200 years
>
> Birds live for average 10 years
>
> Dogs live for an average 10 years
>
> Ants live for average 1 year
>
> Fly lives for just 1 month

A bacterium may live for only a few minutes before it reproduces and
become 2 individuals.

There is a shrub in Tasmania about 43,000 years old.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/277/5325/483a
> We often think life with age of 1 month - 100 years.

Ah! That must be in the narrows of your own mind, then.
> What about life form that live for only 1 second. There can be a life
> which has a lifetime of just 1 sec.

Possibly, but we haven't seen such yet.
> Or may be some Living giant which lives for million years. and for him
> 1 year = 1 second. So we are unable to detect its movements.

Trees don't move, yet they live and we detect them easily enough. I
dare say that if there were a giant which lived for 1 million years,
it would be visible whether it moved or not.
> It takes 1 sec for us to move our hands/ legs to walk. Just image a
> Big living Object that takes 10 years for moving its parts.
>
> If we Just look that object for 1-2 years we will not be able to
> detect those movement. And we will miss them as living objects.
>
> Earth takes 1 year to revolve arround Sun. And Sun takes millions of
> years to revolve arround Galaxy. So if a living being is made of stars
> and is walking we will never be able to detect those movements in our
> life time. As it will take millions of years to turn arround.
>
> As they take 1 Million years to move their hands and Legs.
>
> Simmilarly for very small life that has a lifetime of say a nano
> second we can never detect them as living object. Asby the time we
> adjust our Microscope they will have died already.,

We can make images of things that happen in attoseconds (billionths of
a nanosecond).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=attosecond+imagery&btnG=Google+Search
> So detection of Life is very difficult if they live in different
> timescale and length.

No. Only your limited knowledge and lack of imagination causes you to
believe that is true.
> If a blind cannot see someone that does not mean
> the things do not exist. So if we are unable to detect such living
> things it does not mean they do not exists.
>
> Bye
> Sanny

Mobility is not a prerequisite for "life." Many life forms do not
move.

Structure is a prerequisite. All life forms have a finite extent, a
definite boundary between "self" and "not-self", and an identifiable
structure - they are not amorphous blobs of matter.

So is the potential for self-reproduction a prerequisite, or at least
the ability of its parent organism(s) to reproduce. If it lives, and
there was ever a time when it did not live, it must have started
living at some point. Except for the most primitive possible 'life
form' (which will always be arguably non-living) all life arises from
previous life.

So is mortality a prerequisite. If it cannot "die" can it be truly
called "alive"?

So is maintenance of its identity while interacting with its
environment to absorb and expel matter and energy a prerequisite.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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