>>>>>> •• You still don't get it.
>>>>>> Â Â Left wing/socialism/liberalism/communism
>>>>>> Â Â all equal fascism.
>>>> ** Nice try for an idiot~~ but no cigar.
>>>> Â Â It doesn't pay to argue with the professor.
>>>>   If a sophmore in my polysci  seminars offered
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>>> Nazis hated and mocked Christianity. Â Most particularly, Nazis loathed the
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Like I say, all politicians love a good photo-op.
(or should that be "Like, I say, ....") [Only when it's funny]
" Private statements
Hitler’s private statements about Christianity are largely negative.
Hitler’s intimates, Goebbels, Speer, and Bormann, report many such
statements, although the historical validity of some remarks has been
questioned, particularly the collection called Table Talk. Although most
historians consider it a useful source, they do not regard it as wholly
reliable. Ian Kershaw makes clear the questionable nature of Table Talk as a
source;[15] however, although Kershaw recommends treating the work with
caution, he does not suggest dispensing with it altogether. Richard Carrier
goes further, contending that certain portions of Table Talk, especially
those regarding Hitler's hatred of Christianity, are inventions. [16]
There is less controversy about other statements. Joseph Goebbels notes in a
diary entry in 1939: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply
anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay." Albert Speer
reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the
wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard
sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion
too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it
have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[17] In the
Hossbach Memorandum Hitler is recorded as saying that "only the
disintegrating effect of Christianity, and the symptoms of age" were
responsible for the demise of the Roman Empire.[18] "
(Source:Wikipedia)
and,
"The Religious Affiliation of
Adolf Hitler
German Dictator, Nazi Leader
There is no question that Hitler was a Nazi. Nazism was clearly his most
important religious affiliation, not in the positive way the word "religion"
is often defined, but in the general sense that any philosophy or belief
system which is most important in a person's life is that person's
"religion," regardless of whether or not it is universally labelled as a
"religion." Hitler was also born into a Catholic family, but he rejected
Catholicism and in most ways he rejected Christianity in general. On
occasion we have read people claim that "Hitler was a Catholic" or "Hitler
was a Christian" in a meaningful way, implying that Christianity or
Catholicism was the primary impetus for his Nazi reign. Such claims are
simply vitriolic attacks occasionally voiced by ideologically-inclined
anti-Christian, anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi people. Historians agree that
Hitler was pointedly anti-Christian. We are not aware of any published
sources from acknowledged academic historians or writers that identify Adolf
Hitler as significantly Catholic or Christian in his motivations as an
adult. If anybody writes to us to point out such resources, we will be happy
to cite them and refer to them here. One detailed publication that describes
how Hitler was anti-Christian was written by Jewish writer Julie Seltzer
Mandel, as described by Matt Kaufman
(
http://boundless.org/2001/regulars/kaufman/a0000541.html):
' I vividly remember a high school conversation with a friend I'd known
since we were eight. I'd pointed out that Hitler was essentially a pagan,
not a Christian, but my friend absolutely refused to believe it. No matter
how much evidence I presented, he kept insisting that Nazi Germany was an
extension of Christianity, acting out its age-old vendetta against the Jews.
Not that he spoke from any personal study of the subject; he just knew. He'd
heard it so many times it'd become an article of faith - one of those things
"everyone knows."... Well, sometimes myths die hard. But this one took a hit
in early January, at the hands of one Julie Seltzer Mandel, a Jewish law
student at Rutgers whose grandmother survived internment at Auschwitz.
A couple of years ago Mandel read through 148 bound volumes of papers
gathered by the American OSS (the World War II-era predecessor of the CIA)
to build the case against Nazi leaders on trial at Nuremberg. Now she and
some fellow students are publishing what they found in the journal Law and
Religion (
www.lawandreligion.com)... The upshot: a ton of evidence that
Hitler sought to wipe out Christianity just as surely as he sought to wipe
out the Jews.
The first installment (the papers are being published in stages)
includes a 108-page OSS outline, "The Persecution of the Christian
Churches." ...how the Nazis - faced with a country where the overwhelming
majority considered themselves Christians - built their power while plotting
to undermine and eradicate the churches, and the people's faith... From the
start of the Nazi movement, "the destruction of Christianity was explicitly
recognized as a purpose of the National Socialist movement," said Baldur von
Scvhirach, leader of the group that would come to be known as Hitler youth.
But "explicitly" only within party ranks: as the OSS stated, "considerations
of expedience made it impossible" for the movement to make this public until
it consolidated power... By 1937, Pope Pius XI denounced the Nazis for
waging "a war of extermination" against the church... Catholic priests found
police snatching sermons out of their hands, often in mid-reading ... ' "
(Source:
http://www.adherents.com/people/ph/Adolf_Hitler.html )
Those two should be about a thousand words.............
So, can you come up with something besides your propaganda photo-ops?
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