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Re: Lehman Bankrupt, FF Nationalisation & Corporate Welfare Bailouts         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Sep 18, 2008 19:43

On Sep 18, 8:41 pm, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
> Robert Cohen wrote:
>> Here's a still relevant reason why I'm a "liberal"
>
>> See Upton Sinclair, THE JUNGLE, leftwing propaganda facilitated the
>> "pure food and drugs act," FDA, thankfully---->what just happened in
>> an apparent ruthlessly competitive de-regulated Chinese jungle re that
>> alleged bad batch of  infant powder milk/formula
>
> Do a Google search, "How many people has the FDA killed". See what
> comes up.
>
> Incidentally, you get it from both directions - leftists who claim
> that the FDA is too lax and others who claim it is too stringent. Too
> lax in supposedly allowing dangerous drugs/food products and too
> stringent in keeping potentially life saving drugs off the market, as
> well as over-zealously functioning as our nanny in regard to the foods
> we eat.
>
> Furthermore, do you really think that food companies aren't poisoning
> us for fear of the FDA?
>
> Do you remember the soup company, Bon Vivant - an old, very respected
> company. One incident of botulism in 1971 and within a month the
> company filed for bankruptcy. Recently the same thing happened to
> Topps Meat Co. after an E.Coli outbreak was traced to their beef
> patties. A  67 year old family business, knowing it could never
> recover from this stain on its reputation, it closed its doors in a
> week.
>
> China is even less forgiving. If they follow their usual practice, the
> owners of that company will be executed - a perhaps extreme response
> but not entirely unjustified if it can be demonstrated that they
> knowingly distributed the tainted product.
>
> Incidentally, I have no objection to those proven guilty of
> endangering the unaware public being taken to court and suffering
> civil, as well as possibly criminal, penalties. I say "unaware"
> because people have the right to endanger themselves, e.g. with
> tobacco or alcohol, etc.
>
> Fred Weiss

Helle-shite-damne, a convincing case (to moi) is made that Rachel
Carson's bete-noire DDT (are ya old enuff to recall "Drop Dead Twice"
as we kids used to call it? ) banning/prohibition actually has hurt/
killed many millions-particularly in the so-callled 4th world. I grant
this intelligence disclosure could well be rightwing chemical company
propaganda, though i've yet to encounter a convincing refutation

For first world: DDT gets readily into the food chain and there is no
telling what it also reaps (human cancers & kills birds eggs, for
instances)

Ms Carson was the bigg deal circa 1960s, and now she's slurred as
misguided, and i hereaby plead i dunno (sorta the same reason i'm
agnostic)

I'm not posting my rhino turds here in "philosophy" to win a silly
ideological upspersonship contest

Some govt regulation is good, and some govt regulation is bad

I'm nevertheless sorta proud that i did not vote for GWB twice,
because he is such a bumbling fool

And if a person is President,/V.P., then that person oughta be better
read than me, and have a higher IQ than my room temperature mediocre

Even if that superior intellect is also an over-sexed, mobile home
sales person

A frat brother at Yale claims he never saw GWB crack a book, and i
sorta believe that the frat rat ain't exaggerating much
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