> On Sep 18, 3:34 pm, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
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>> On Sep 17, 9:53 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:

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>>> I'm not going to challenge your reactionary-regressive ideological--
>>> idealistic &  romantic-- convictions

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>> Flattery will get you nowhere, Robert.

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>>> I live here and now in the real world such as it is

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>> And look at the mess.

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>>> If you could tell me of a libertarian actual model, or of an
>>> Objectivist actual model, or even an unfettered marketplace today or
>>> in history any time or location, then ...

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>> ...then maybe its time.

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>>> I am pragmatist enough to go for what works

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>> And what we have now is working, in your view?

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>> Btw, Tiggy et al, usually claim that we did have "an unfettered
>> marketplace" pre-1930. We didn't really, not completely, but it was
>> certainly more true then than now. It worked fabulously. Actually, the
>> results were truly breathtaking.

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>> But as I've said to Tiny Tim, you guys really need to learn what
>> actually happened. You have a very distorted view of it, past down by
>> leftist historians with an ax to grind. Fortunately, that view is
>> gradually undergoing a radical shift in the right direction and the
>> true facts are emerging.

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>> Fred Weiss

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> I agree with the NYT liberal columnist ROGER Cohen: If a reader
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