> On Sep 17, 9:53 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
>

>> I'm not going to challenge your reactionary-regressive ideological--
>> idealistic &  romantic-- convictions

>
> Flattery will get you nowhere, Robert.
>

>> I live here and now in the real world such as it is

>
> And look at the mess.
>

>> If you could tell me of a libertarian actual model, or of an
>> Objectivist actual model, or even an unfettered marketplace today or
>> in history any time or location, then ...

>
> ...then maybe its time.
>

>> I am pragmatist enough to go for what works

>
> And what we have now is working, in your view?
>
> Btw, Tiggy et al, usually claim that we did have "an unfettered
> marketplace" pre-1930. We didn't really, not completely, but it was
> certainly more true then than now. It worked fabulously. Actually, the
> results were truly breathtaking.
>
> But as I've said to Tiny Tim, you guys really need to learn what
> actually happened. You have a very distorted view of it, past down by
> leftist historians with an ax to grind. Fortunately, that view is
> gradually undergoing a radical shift in the right direction and the
> true facts are emerging.
>
> Fred Weiss