Re: Lehman Bankrupt, FF Nationalisation & Corporate Welfare Bailouts
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Re: Lehman Bankrupt, FF Nationalisation & Corporate Welfare Bailouts         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Sep 16, 2008 05:37

On Sep 16, 12:21 am, "Sean" now.com.au> wrote:
> "Robert Cohen" msn.com> wrote in message
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> news:cd2b0ed1-23bf-469d-9980-11d3239dfa24@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 15, 8:43 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
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>> On Sep 15, 12:18 pm, "Sean" now.com.au> wrote:
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>>> "Robert Cohen" msn.com> wrote in message
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>>>news:89b1c93e-2877-443e-9d65-a5c35b53421b@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 14, 8:04 pm, "Sean" now.com.au> wrote:
>>> sold out)
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>>> Thanks Robt ... that was simply exquisite, well done.
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>>> I want more!!! - Hide quoted text -
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>> "Befor enlightenment, chop wood carry water. Employ others to do so.
>> Get fat and lazy."
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>> "After enlightenment, chop your own wood, and carry your own water.
>> Get slim and energetic.
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>> "After after, go back to first principles (they need the work)..get
>> fat and lazy again, but this time, enjoy :-)
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>> Now go and peel me a grape. You need the exercise, and I need the
>> power. ;-)
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>> BOfL
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> A Scot's colorful take of that ill-fated meeting over the weak failing
> end
>
> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/-How-the-Masters-of.449403...
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> Meanwhile, there's CNBC rumor that prospective buyer BARCLAY BANK
> wanted LEHMAN BROS to go into chapter 11 legal volutary bankruptcy in
> order the get the assets more cheap including legally screwing the LEH
> stockholders & employees (TWENTY THOUSAND EMPLOYEES) who are now
> seemingly completely peed off at their proud but mis-calculating
> leader RAY FULD
>
> LEH IS NOT REALLY POOR: Bill Gross the PIMCO bond sage says LEH is not
> really that "insolvent," and apparently a liquid loan was what they
> had needed because they're too cash poor
>
> Obviously their peers/competitors are saying, "tough-shitsky," and
> return to their dark Lincoln Town Cars
>
> Merrill Lynch proves much more adaptive than Lehman Bros today, as THE
> BANK OF AMERICA
> is now gonnabe even a bigger biggee by acquiring Merrill for $50
> billion
>
> AIG, a TRILLION dollar insurance giant, is considered now to be the
> next gigantic chapter 11 loser. Yet, Bill Gross says, AIG is not
> really "insolvent" either.
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> but "insolvent" merely means one knows that they are unable to pay debts
> when they are due, and when that happens Directors are lawfully required to
> act accordingly. Even if it is a $10 loan and you only have $9 and the
> debtor won't renegotiate, and you can't borrow the extra dollar, then the
> company is "insolvent".
>
> iow "bankrupt" .... no matter what assetts one might have, or could get for
> them in a month from now, if the debt is due today, that's it.- Hide quoted text -
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True and are anti-pubic interest, because these financial behemoths
are intricately dynamic & essential utilities, as so many people and
dealings are inter-depending on 'em

Our houses of cards are self-destructing if not intervened upon by
Uncle Sam

Of course "the market" absorbs everything in the long run, Professor
Uncle Milty Friedman

Imho: Such absolutist capitalism is NOT in the public interest
especially in the short run in which we exist

We are re-learning the Herbert Hoover era dilemmas

Yeah, today's clashings of political philosophies are not irrelevant,
as we are witnessing the traditional Right and Left issues

All the rightwing radio talk show simplistic shilly wisdumb &
shallowness is MALADAPTIVE & foolishness personified, and CHAOS and
massive deprivations are the inevitable consequence
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