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Author: tata Date: May 14, 2008 08:40
When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
is incomplete.
That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language;
language kills.
Authentic truths can only be felt, experienced, intuited . . . we can
talk about these things after the fact, but it's not the same thing.
Experiencing the truthful beauty of a heron skimming the lake cannot
be verbally communicated (though we may try).
And no book can ever lead one to "enlightenment".
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Author: TimTim Date: May 14, 2008 14:17
> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to Power,
especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
tightly.
> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
> is incomplete.
>
And before it was a concept or name it was just as dead.
> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language;
> language kills.
>
The truth is that the truth is chaos, hence there really is no truth, just
perspective.
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Author: travellertraveller Date: May 14, 2008 14:59
On May 14, 11:40 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
> is incomplete.
>
> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language;
> language kills.
>
> Authentic truths can only be felt, experienced, intuited . . . we can
> talk about these things after the fact, but it's not the same thing.
>
> Experiencing the truthful beauty of a heron skimming the lake cannot
> be verbally communicated (though we may try).
>
> And no book can ever lead one to...
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Author: travellertraveller Date: May 14, 2008 15:01
On May 14, 5:17 pm, "Tim" q.con> wrote:>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
> Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to Power,
> especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
> tightly.
>
>> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
>> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
>> is incomplete.
>
> And before it was a concept or name it was just as dead.
>
>> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language; ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 15, 2008 08:05
On May 15, 1:40 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
> is incomplete.
>
> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language;
> language kills.
>
> Authentic truths can only be felt, experienced, intuited . . . we can
> talk about these things after the fact, but it's not the same thing.
>
> Experiencing the truthful beauty of a heron skimming the lake cannot
> be verbally communicated (though we may try).
>
> And no book can ever lead one to...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 15, 2008 08:09
On May 15, 7:17 am, "Tim" q.con> wrote:>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
> Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to Power,
> especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
> tightly.
>
>> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
>> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
>> is incomplete.
>
> And before it was a concept or name it was just as dead.
>
>> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language; ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 15, 2008 08:11
On May 15, 8:01 am, traveller gmail.com> wrote:> On May 14, 5:17 pm, "Tim" q.con> wrote:
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>>> "ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message>
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>>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
>> Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to Power,
>> especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
>> tightly.
>
>>> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it ...
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Author: tata Date: May 15, 2008 09:12
On May 14, 5:17 pm, "Tim" q.con> wrote:>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
> Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to Power,
> especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
> tightly.
Even if everyone agrees that everything in the book is true, it's only
true at an intellectual level, which is still restricted by/influenced
by memory, which is based on the past.
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Author: tata Date: May 15, 2008 12:24
On May 14, 5:59 pm, traveller gmail.com> wrote:> On May 14, 11:40 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>
>> Similarly, as soon as you name something, you also kill it . . . it
>> becomes an idea or concept, and is therefore based on the past, and so
>> is incomplete.
>
>> That is why no real truth can ever be communicated via language;
>> language kills.
>
>> Authentic truths can only be felt, experienced, intuited . . . we can
>> talk about these things after the fact, but it's not the same thing.
>
>> Experiencing the truthful beauty of a heron skimming the lake cannot ...
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Author: TimTim Date: May 15, 2008 13:42
> On May 14, 5:17 pm, "Tim" q.con> wrote:>>> When you print a book, it immediately becomes outdated, since it only
>>> captures what has happened to that point. A book is dead matter (which
>>> is why things like wiki and html are ever popular).
>>
>> Sometimes, but not all the time. Have a read of Nietzsche's Will to
>> Power,
>> especially the preface. He's long dead but what he said holds, and quite
>> tightly.
>
> Even if everyone agrees that everything in the book is true, it's only
> true at an intellectual level, which is still restricted by/influenced
> by memory, which is based on the past.
> ...
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