"ZerkonX"
X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.09.12.12.55.09@X.net...> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:20:30 +1000, Sean wrote:
>
>> it must have a "creator/genesis" behind it and that of itself is
>> basically knowledge.
>
> Let's deal with this - the heart of the matter.
>
> 'Creation' (power) is action. It implies knowledge but knowledge is not
> necessary as an absolute. Things can be 'created' by accident, without
> intention or knowledge.
>
> Gates. Gates did not 'create' MS-DOS. [insert insipid MS-DOS history here]
> Gates modified and renamed his product from earlier work (action). This
> leads back to a definition of knowledge.
>
> It may be too broad to say that 'all knowledge comes from action' or
> Action creates knowledge but this certainly can not be easily dismissed.
>
> The power of an institution, Gates or the RCC, is conformity. Many acting
> (management of action) to one end.
>
> However, the essential here is management (knowledge) of labor (action)
> needs labor absolutely but labor does not absolutely need management.
> Labor might be managed for a single purpose and so an institution gains
> more economic power but the element that make up this power is the act of
> labor. Each act of labor, left un-managed, would still have worth but no
> amount of management brilliance would have any worth without that which
> is managed.
>
> Modern economic power is money. Money is an abstraction of value. The
> value money represents is work. Gold, for instance, is only valuable
> because it is a rarity as an extracted metal. A gold deposit which is
> absolutely impossible to extract (action) from the ground would have very
> little value.
>
> I do think that this is a practical issue. Knowledge, it seems, is
> mistaken as power and not as, maybe, the best means to that end. That end
> being action.
>
Let's say I give you 1000 labourers.
What use are they and what actions will they perform if:
1) you don't know how to manage 1000 labourers
2) you don't know for what valuable purpose you can use those 1000 labourers
3) you don't know how to present a business plan to a Bank to borrow money
to pay those 1000 labourers before you get the gold of the ground as one
possible use
4) you don't know how to communicate effectively, or say, don't know jack
shit about anything?
Ponder what degrees of power 1000 labourers offers you in the above senario
without knowledge as a priory, and get back to me if you want. :-)
PS
It doesn't matter if Bill Gates stole his disc operating system from
Venusians - if he didn't know what it was, know what it meant, know how to
use it, know how to develop it, know how to score a brilliant contract from
IBM, know how to design a brilliant End Use Agreement, know how to teach
others, know how to manage people, know how to get a loan, etc ..... you
would never have heard of him, or Microsoft, or his labour force, or his
massive wealth [ power ] today.
It all goes back to the beginning of MS-DOS and Bill Gates' knowledge at
that time, of what he had in his hot little hands.
Obviously, I disagree with your senario above, but still I'm willing to
accept that it could all have to do with semantics and our individual points
of view, iow how we are looking at it differently.
cheers
