> "Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 10, 10:17 am, student13 gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sep 10, 7:54 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> On Sep 10, 7:35 am, John J wrote:

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>>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:

>>>>> On Sep 8, 6:02 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:

>>>>>> Knowledge has no power without action. Ignorance in action has
>>>>>> power.
>>>>>> Knowledge alone yields nothing without act.

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>>>>>> It is Action or Process that is power not knowledge.

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>>>>> Like most truisms, the phrase "knowledge is power" is an
>>>>> exaggeration,
>>>>> or oversimplification, intended to make a point. Knowledge is very
>>>>> useful, and without knowledge, power is often limited and self-
>>>>> destructive.

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>>>> In your earlier posts you proposed that scientific research should be
>>>> constrained to limits you would impose. IOW, you wish for the power to
>>>> limit research. Your knowledge of scientific research is highly
>>>> limited.
>>>> So one can conclude it suits you to turn things backwards based upon
>>>> ...
>>>> what? The weather? A roll of dice? One of those goofy 8-Ball things
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>>>> pops up random answers? Imagine a fascist model of the same. Horrors!
>>>> The trains will run on time.... but to nowhere you want to go.

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>>> Not at all. In my other posts, I propose that professional scientists
>>> should be held accountable for doing work of value, and not just
>>> whatever they feel like, including, and often, absolutely nothing
>>> other than feathering their own nests.

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>> very interesting.

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>> Today, when the scientists started carrying out the Bigbang experiment
>> - costing over 5 billion and may be over 15 years
>> some one asked, is it worth ?

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>> The scientist replied that when maxwell (?) explained electo-
>> magnetism, neither he nor the people around him
>> at that time thought about its utility. Over a period scientists
>> became Knowledgeable - more and more knowledgeable
>> on its use.

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>> that is growth.

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>> remember even in those days Issac Newton had the courage to tell the
>> world that
>> when some one invent or discover something, the world more often does
>> not remember that
>> it is done standing on the shoulders of so many others.

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>> enjoy
>> cheers
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> | A very convenient argument for justifying doing whatever one wishes,
> | at all times.  And attacking anyone who questions you.
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> This has become Kraus Dueling with Kraus. Not very interesting, nor
> profitable, nor valuable.
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> | Scientists need to be held accountable, just like all other
> | individuals.
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> I guess we should all report in to Jerry Kraus. I'll begin. I work under
> State and Federal grants. I do very well. Tell you what, Kraus, you call
> them and make your case. That might be a path to action. Typing here does no
> good at all.
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> BTW - Your posts are being collected for a study of logic.Yours make the
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