Kant
"I have therefore found it necessary to deny knowledge, in order to
make room for faith."

Are hardly the words of someone claiming not to be a mystic eh?

But according to Knucmo:

Another confusion. Kant is not a mystic: He does not claim that God
is an object of sensory reality, ever, in fact.

Hmmmm knucmo again:

For any section of reality to become known to us, some sort of
condition has to be the case wherein it can be an object for us. But
what makes reality into an object for us? It's mere existence doesn't
establish its being an object for us.

Makes it very hard for Kant to claim what knucmo says he did on the
subject of god.

Slightly different but further dishonesty.

Me:
Man is born tabula rasa, all of your knowledge is learnt.

On Aug 4, 7:08 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

On Aug 4, 8:32 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:

On Aug 4, 4:08 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

It seems that if certainty cannot be established then all that is left
is faith or the probability of conflicting theories must compete in
the free market of ideas. Again its like your claiming that you can
predict a flip of a coin with certainty, but you must have -faith- in
a 50/50 chance that "when" the flip takes place it will be one or the
other.

On Aug 4, 8:03 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

If you read the postings, you see how quickly those who lack a
rational
response fall back on ad hominum. I dont claim to know how the
memories
in my brain got there. I've read interesting work on how to put
memories
there in what I remember as undergraduate years.

On Aug 5, 3:46 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:

then... you're not looking hard enough for the contradictions.

That is all it means, nothing more nothing less - soooo
try harder Mortal.

Context dropping fuckhead, I cant stand fucking liars
and the days of me being civil to you are fast
coming to an end.

I have said that a tossed coin will land according to
very strict laws of nature specifically physics,
including such information as the weight of coin,
how it rested prior to having forced applied to it, the
amount of force applied to it at initiation of the toss,
facts and laws of gravity, known facts of the environment
etc etc etc, I have said there are no contradictions in reality
and that a tossed coin can NOT act in contradiction of its
nature and will land precisely how those laws determine.

On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:

Answering; *memories of what*, is a good place to start. e.g. is it a
memory of reality or memory of a memory of a feeling of a feeeling?

e.g. a dog or a god.

This thread is about a human being who had none of those problems, a
human being who claimed to be an advocate of reason, who in reality
sought to destroy it.

If you want to talk about straw man sick people, then fuck off and
start another thread.

Michael Gordge

For one, from what I read Saint Ramprasad has to say, I have no way
of knowing that there really is a 'there' there, and that everything I
perceive is no more than a data stream from some 3D virtual reality
generator. About 4 terabyes/sec would easily be convincing.

Given what was already written in what appears to be memory. The
Vedas I remember reading, which may or may not exist in the reality
you exist on, come to grips with this issue of a projected reality
system,
which includes projecting the forces that appear to be physical
bodies.
The Levantine scriptures dont have the answers, or even the right
questions.

Not that there could not be a reality system some place with a set
of Levantine scriptures that make sense within the parameters of
that reality.

On Aug 7, 3:58 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:

So you deny the existence of your own ideas?

So you have no way of knowing whether that is a statement about
reality?

So why the fuck even say it?

Who cares, apart from your mother, that you cant tell and dont know
for certain your shit hole from your mouth hole? poor sod

Its a lie a toke doesn't lead you to ice, YOU do.

Michael Gordge

On Aug 6, 5:12 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Oh the ideas exist, but just because they are present in my head does
not mean that I own them. This dispassion makes it easier for me to
consider the ideas of others. Without becoming disagreeable.