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Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Mar 21, 2008 17:34

According to Kantian Melon Park, Kant's meaning of time, as he uses in
his PUDOR, is the same meaning as found in the dictionary.

Kant:
"In respect of time, therefore, no knowledge of ours is antecedent to
experience, but begins with it."

Replacing "time" with Kant's meaning of it, accordng to Kantian Melon"

In respect of the system of those sequential relations that any event
has to any other, therefore, no knowledge of Kant's is dependent upon
the experience, not even dependent to Kant experiencing the objects
and or events required for there to be sequential relations that any
event has to any other.

How can man know there are events, let alone know about a sequential
relationship between events, in the absense of experiencing objects
and their realtionship to each other?

The question therefore is, how can there be knowledge of time without,
or in Kant's words, not dependent upon man experiencing objects /
events?

Answer;
Do as Kantians do and treat time as a god, pure 100%% imagination.
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Mar 21, 2008 18:25

"Michael Gordge" xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> According to Kantian Melon Park, Kant's meaning of time, as he uses in
> his PUDOR, is the same meaning as found in the dictionary.
>
> Kant:
> "In respect of time, therefore, no knowledge of ours is antecedent to
> experience, but begins with it."
>
> Replacing "time" with Kant's meaning of it, accordng to Kantian Melon"
>
> In respect of the system of those sequential relations that any event
> has to any other, therefore, no knowledge of Kant's is dependent upon
> the experience, not even dependent to Kant experiencing the objects
> and or events required for there to be sequential relations that any
> event has to any other.
>
> How can man know there are events, let alone know about a sequential
> relationship between events, in the absense of experiencing objects ...
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Mar 21, 2008 19:01

On Mar 22, 10:25 am, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> So, by association of objctivity, you are a Kantian, > and also a mystic.

Only in your weirdly confused state of mind Brian.

MG
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Brian Fletcher
Date: Mar 22, 2008 02:54

"Michael Gordge" xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Mar 22, 10:25 am, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> So, by association of objctivity, you are a Kantian, > and also a mystic.

Only in your weirdly confused state of mind Brian.

MG

So thats your answer to your knowledge of the status of a mystic.

One thing you are correct about, although you do try to personalize it, is
the mind being in a confused state.That is the status quo of 'the' mind and
can be seen clearly by a 'clear' observer by simply reading the constant
banter and arguing in attempt to being 'right' by you lot.

BOfL
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 22, 2008 09:53

On Mar 21, 5:34 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> According to Kantian Melon Park, Kant's meaning of time, as he uses in
> his PUDOR, is the same meaning as found in the dictionary.
>

Well accourding to Kant in a nut-shell?

TIME [A23/B37] Generally, Kant defines time as "a determinate
form. ..in which alone the intuition of inner states is possible"
adding "and everything which belongs to inner states is therefore
represented...
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Mar 22, 2008 11:25

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>On Mar 21, 5:34 pm, Michael (wife killer) Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>> According to Kantian Melon Park, Kant's meaning of time, as he uses in
>> his PUDOR, is the same meaning as found in the dictionary.
>>
>
>Well accourding to Kant in a nut-shell?
>
>TIME [A23/B37] Generally,

That's out of context, you've been fooled by one of Gouge's
word-twisting, context-dropping games. The context is B1 - "In the
order of time, therefore, we have no knowledge antecedent to
experience, and with experience all our knowledge begins."
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Tron
Date: Mar 22, 2008 14:11

"Malrassic Park" hotmail.com> skrev i melding
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> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
> yahoo.com> wrote:
> That's out of context, you've been fooled by one of Gouge's
> word-twisting, context-dropping games. The context is B1 - "In the
> order of time, therefore, we have no knowledge antecedent to
> experience, and with experience all our knowledge begins."
>
>
> You're just falling for his little game.
> --

I know he's read this before:

"
(MG:) >Last sentence first paragraph of his PUDOR where he talks about his
>victim's (thats you Tim) knowledge of time not being dependent upon your
>senses experiencing objects,

(T:) No, he doesn't.

Let me explain it to you.
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Mar 22, 2008 14:38

On Mar 23, 6:11 am, "Tron" wrote:
>
> 1. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN PURE AND EMPIRICAL
> KNOWLEDGE

Hahaha whooops there they go again, the dopey Kantian belief that by
preceding "knowledge" with an adjective somehow, but of course
Kantians never explain how, that somehow the preceding adjective
somehow changes the meaning of knowledge.

What meaning did Kant have for knowledge, there's no doubt he had only
one meaning for empirical and for pure, (in the context and the phrase
he's uses them in) so why not for knowledge?
> There can be no doubt that all our knowledge begins with
> experience.

Hmmm, the religionists say god starts out for them as an experience,
so how does Kant's version of experience differ to the mystics?
>.... produce
> representations,

Anthropomorphic piffle.
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Mar 22, 2008 14:48

On Mar 22, 6:54 pm, "Brian Fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So thats your answer to your knowledge of the
> status of a mystic.

"the status" oh sooo your knowledge of the mystic is that they have
only one status?

Check your dictionary, I believe you will find its author was Kant, he
has many meanings for every single word known to man, but his victims
of course blame the translation from his native tongue.

HINT; mystics accept ideas on faith alone Brian and regardless of
contradiction.

Michael Gordge
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Re: Kant's Knowledge of, *The system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other* (time).         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 22, 2008 21:44

On Mar 22, 2:38 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 6:11 am, "Tron" wrote:
>
>
>
>> 1. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN PURE AND EMPIRICAL
>> KNOWLEDGE
>
> Hahaha whooops there they go again, the dopey Kantian belief that by
> preceding "knowledge" with an adjective somehow, but of course
> Kantians never explain how, that somehow the preceding adjective
> somehow changes the meaning of knowledge.
>
> What meaning did Kant have for knowledge, there's no doubt he had only
> one meaning for empirical and for pure, (in the context and the phrase
> he's uses them in) so why not for knowledge?
>
>> There can be no doubt that all our knowledge begins with
>> experience.
> ...
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