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Author: George Dance
Date: Jan 29, 2007 12:23

I found this interesting comparison of Kantianism and constructivism
in Michael Devitt's "Naturalistic Defence of Realism" (Hales, ed. /
Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings, Wadsworth 1999, 95). It should
shed some insight into the Kantian/constructivist debate going on in a
few other threads.


"Kant is responsible for another traditional idealist response to the
skeptical challenge. Kant's way of saving knowledge is very different
from foundationalism's. He closes the gap between...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: Residential
Date: Jan 29, 2007 21:19

George Dance wrote:
> I found this interesting comparison of Kantianism and constructivism
> in Michael Devitt's "Naturalistic Defence of Realism" (Hales, ed. /
> Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings, Wadsworth 1999, 95). It should
> shed some insight into the Kantian/constructivist debate going on in a
> few other threads.
>
>
> "Kant is responsible for another traditional idealist response to the
> skeptical challenge. Kant's way of saving knowledge is very different
> from foundationalism's. He closes the gap between the knowing mind
> and the object known with his view that the object is partly
> constituted by the cognitive activities of the mind. He distinguished
> objects as we know them - stones, trees, cats, and so on - from
> objects as they are independent of our knowledge. Kant called the
> former "appearances" and the latter "things-in-themselves."
> Appearances are obtained by our imposition of a priori concepts; for
> example, causality, time and the Euclidean principles of spatial
> relationships. Only things-in-themselves, forever beyond our ken,
> have the objectivity and independence required by Realism. ...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: Publius
Date: Jan 29, 2007 21:40

"Residential" yahoo.com> wrote in news:1170134375.592279.244660
@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> ". . . . Kant, of course, does not see the process of synthesis
> producing anything relativistic or subjectivist: the realism of
> phenomena is fully meant. The knock-offs of Kant are rarely realistic...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: galathaea
Date: Jan 29, 2007 22:42

On Jan 29, 12:23 pm, "George Dance" wrote:
> I found this interesting comparison of Kantianism and constructivism
> in Michael Devitt's "Naturalistic Defence of Realism" (Hales, ed. /
> Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings, Wadsworth 1999, 95). It should
> shed some insight into the Kantian/constructivist debate going on in a
> few other threads.
>
>
> "Kant is responsible for another traditional idealist response to the
> skeptical challenge. Kant's way of saving knowledge is very different
> from foundationalism's. He closes the gap between the knowing mind
> and the object known with his view that the object is partly
> constituted by the cognitive activities of the mind. He distinguished
> objects as we know them - stones, trees, cats, and so on - from
> objects as they are independent of our knowledge. Kant called the
> former "appearances" and the latter "things-in-themselves."
> Appearances are obtained by our imposition of a priori concepts; for
> example, causality, time and the Euclidean principles of spatial
> relationships. Only things-in-themselves, forever beyond our ken,
> have the objectivity and independence required by Realism. ...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: malenoid
Date: Feb 1, 2007 21:12

On Jan 30, 1:32 pm, "galathaea" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 10:34 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jan 29, 1:23 pm, "George Dance" wrote:> I found this interesting comparison of Kantianism and constructivism
>>> in Michael Devitt's "Naturalistic Defence of Realism" (Hales, ed. /
>>> Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings, Wadsworth 1999, 95). It should
>>> shed some insight into the Kantian/constructivist debate going on in a
>>> few other threads.
>
>>>
>
>> "Kantis responsible for another traditional idealist response to the
>> skeptical challenge."
>
>> Lol.Kantis nothing like a traditionalist, either as idealist or as a
>> "Weak Realist" (ahem). His was a Copernican Revolution - well,
>> I'll admit that as Copernican Revolutions go,Kant'swasn't very
>> unique after all, right? It was just another ho-hum, hum-drum ...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: George Dance
Date: Feb 2, 2007 10:59

On Jan 30, 1:24 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 29, 1:23 pm, "George Dance" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> I found this interesting comparison of Kantianism and constructivism
>> in Michael Devitt's "Naturalistic Defence of Realism" (Hales, ed. /
>> Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings, Wadsworth 1999, 95). It should
>> shed some insight into the Kantian/constructivist debate going on in a
>> few other threads.
>
>>
>> "Kant is responsible for another traditional idealist response to the
>> skeptical challenge. Kant's way of saving knowledge is very different
>> from foundationalism's. He closes the gap between the knowing mind
>> and the object known with his view that the object is partly
>> constituted by the cognitive activities of the mind. He distinguished
>> objects as we know them - stones, trees, cats, and so on - from ...
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Re: kant and constructivism (for galathaea)         


Author: George Dance
Date: Feb 2, 2007 12:07

On Jan 30, 1:34 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Lol. Kant is nothing like a traditionalist, either as idealist or as a
> "Weak Realist" (ahem). His was aCopernicanRevolution - well,
> I'll admit that asCopernicanRevolutions go, Kant's wasn't very
> unique after all, right?

Oh, it has its points:


Kant's most original contribution to philosophy is his "Copernican
Revolution," that, as he puts it, it is the representation that makes
the object possible rather than the object that makes the
representation possible. This introduced the human mind as an active
originator of experience rather than just a passive recipient of
perception.[...]

But if the mind actively generates perception, this raises the
question whether the result has anything to do with the world, or if
so, how much. The answer to the question, unusual, ambiguous, or
confusing...
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