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Author: Berkeley BrettBerkeley Brett Date: Dec 31, 2007 05:43
"We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though
they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the
true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-
making, only by becoming a 'sub-creator' and inventing stories, can
Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the
fall." (Professor J.R.R. Tolkien, quoted in J.R.R. Tolkien: A
Biography, Humphrey Carpenter, Ch. IV, 1977, ISBN 0618057021)
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Author: tata Date: Dec 31, 2007 15:34
On Dec 31, 8:43 am, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:> "We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though
> they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the
> true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-
> making, only by becoming a 'sub-creator' and inventing stories, can
> Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the
> fall." (Professor J.R.R. Tolkien, quoted in J.R.R. Tolkien: A
> Biography, Humphrey Carpenter, Ch. IV, 1977, ISBN 0618057021)
>
> --
> Bretthttp://www.100bestwebsites.org/
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I've been listening to Cambell's "The Power of Myth" on CD . . .
excellent stuff.
Lots of confusion arises when we take things like the Bible literally
instead of symbolically. Lots of things "lost in translation".
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jan 1, 2008 08:57
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:34:22 -0800, ta wrote:
> I've been listening to Cambell's "The Power of Myth" on CD . . .
> excellent stuff.
Yes. It is very surprising to me he didn't use LoTR in more (or any?)
examples. To me, Joseph Campbell was able to 'go behind' religion
and look at it's many specific myths without attacking it and in fact
exposing it's true human value.
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Jan 1, 2008 09:08
On Dec 31 2007, 3:34 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> On Dec 31, 8:43 am, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though
>> they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the
>> true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-
>> making, only by becoming a 'sub-creator' and inventing stories, can
>> Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the
>> fall." (Professor J.R.R. Tolkien, quoted in J.R.R. Tolkien: A
>> Biography, Humphrey Carpenter, Ch. IV, 1977, ISBN 0618057021)
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> I've been listening to Cambell's "The Power of Myth" on CD . . .
> excellent stuff.
>
> Lots of confusion arises when we take things like the Bible literally ...
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Author: tata Date: Jan 1, 2008 09:16
On Jan 1, 11:57 am, ZerkonX erconX.org> wrote:> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:34:22 -0800, ta wrote:
>> I've been listening to Cambell's "The Power of Myth" on CD . . .
>> excellent stuff.
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> Yes. It is very surprising to me he didn't use LoTR in more (or any?)
> examples. To me, Joseph Campbell was able to 'go behind' religion
> and look at it's many specific myths without attacking it and in fact
> exposing it's true human value.
Yes, I got that impression as well. It was interesting to hear how
common (almost identical) the various creation myths are in such
vastly different cultures. Psychologically, it seems, we humans are
basically the same (although no doubt civilization has caused many
variations).
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jan 1, 2008 09:33
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:16:24 -0800, ta wrote:
> Yes, I got that impression as well. It was interesting to hear how
> common (almost identical) the various creation myths are in such
> vastly different cultures. Psychologically, it seems, we humans are
> basically the same (although no doubt civilization has caused many
> variations).
I take the both the current and the traditional physical and dietary
environment as being a huge factor. The myth forms to the function which
always meets immediate necessity. Isn't it interesting how many
religious roots come from food and drink!! What type of religion has
come from a Happy Meal!!
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Author: userjn845userjn845 Date: Jan 1, 2008 10:22
> On Dec 31 2007, 3:34�pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> On Dec 31, 8:43 am, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:>
>>> "We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though
>>> they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the
>>> true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-
>>> making, only by becoming a 'sub-creator' and inventing stories, can
>>> Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the
>>> fall." (Professor J.R.R. Tolkien, quoted in J.R.R. Tolkien: A
>>> Biography, Humphrey Carpenter, Ch. IV, 1977, ISBN 0618057021)
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Author: Robert EpsteinRobert Epstein Date: Jan 1, 2008 12:15
> On Dec 31 2007, 3:34 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>On Dec 31, 8:43 am, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>"We have come from God and inevitably the myths woven by us, though...
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Author: georgegeorge Date: Jan 2, 2008 07:00
On Jan 1, 1:22 pm, userjn...@ aol.com wrote: > pjmutn has decided to set up permanent residence on a site that has
> no interest in his religious subject.
What site is that?
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Jan 2, 2008 08:12
On Jan 2, 7:00 am, george cs.unc.edu> wrote:> On Jan 1, 1:22 pm, userjn...@ aol.com wrote:
> >> pjmutn has decided to set up permanent residence on a site that has
>> no interest in his religious subject.
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> What site is that?
The hypothalamus of John Jones, apparently.
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