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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Mar 7, 2008 04:17
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"It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
Bertrand Russell
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Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
article...
"Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
Which leads me to ask...
How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
Nothing then would revert back to what might have been it's original
meaning, the absence of a particular thing(s) as opposed to all things in
absolute.
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Author: tgtg Date: Mar 7, 2008 04:50
On Mar 7, 7:17 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> ======================================================
> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>
> Bertrand Russell
> =======================================================
>
> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
> article...
>
> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>
> Which leads me to ask...
>
> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
> wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
> ...
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Mar 7, 2008 04:56
On Mar 7, 9:17 pm, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> ======================================================
> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>
> Bertrand Russell
> =======================================================
>
> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
> article...
>
> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>
> Which leads me to ask...
>
> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
> wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
> ...
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Author: Anthony G. RubinoAnthony G. Rubino Date: Mar 7, 2008 07:34
ZerkonX wrote:
Nothing then would revert back to what might have been it's original
meaning, the absence of a particular thing(s) as opposed to all things
in absolute.
My reply:
The concept of nothing is one of the most fascinating concepts that
pervades all thought. Its implicit meanings are not restricted to
philosophic or mathematic consideration. An explicit philosophic
understanding of the concept of nothing, analogous to the mathematic
understanding of the concept of zero, can open vistas of philosophic
consideration that is similar to that which was provided by the
introduction of the concept of zero to mathematics. The turning point in
mathematic thought developed from the use and realization of zero as an
entity with the same metaphysical and ontological status as any other
number.
The absence of quantifiable qualities does not exclude the quality of
existence, or the existence of qualities.
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Mar 7, 2008 11:51
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.03.07.12.29.46@X.net...> ======================================================
> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>
> Bertrand Russell
> =======================================================
>
> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
> article...
>
> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>
> Which leads me to ask...
>
> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
> wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
> ...
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Mar 7, 2008 11:53
"tg" earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Mar 7, 7:17 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> ======================================================
> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>
> Bertrand Russell
> =======================================================
>
> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
> article...
>
> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>
> Which leads me to ask...
>
> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this ...
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Mar 7, 2008 11:58
>
> ZerkonX wrote:
> Nothing then would revert back to what might have been it's original
> meaning, the absence of a particular thing(s) as opposed to all things
> in absolute.
>
> My reply:
> The concept of nothing is one of the most fascinating concepts that
> pervades all thought. Its implicit meanings are not restricted to
> philosophic or mathematic consideration. An explicit philosophic
> understanding of the concept of nothing, analogous to the mathematic
> understanding of the concept of zero, can open vistas of philosophic
> consideration that is similar to that which was provided by the
> introduction of the concept of zero to mathematics. The turning point in
> mathematic thought developed from the use and realization of zero as an
> entity with the same metaphysical and ontological status as any other
> number.
> The absence of quantifiable qualities does not exclude the quality of ...
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Author: jeskojesko Date: Mar 7, 2008 13:21
On 7 Mar, 13:17, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> ======================================================
> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>
> Bertrand Russell
> =======================================================
>
> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
> article...
>
> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>
> Which leads me to ask...
>
> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
> wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
> ...
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Mar 7, 2008 13:25
On Mar 8, 12:34 am, TRISEC...@ webtv.net (Anthony G. Rubino) wrote:
> Remove all thought including that of the consciousness of existence, a
> nonconscious existence, or being, persists.
You said you were going to explain what you mean by nothing.
MG
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Author: ArtArt Date: Mar 7, 2008 13:35
>> ======================================================
>> "It must have required many ages to discover that a brace of pheasants
>> and a couple of days were in both instances the number two."
>>
>> Bertrand Russell
>> =======================================================
>>
>> Reading through Immortals C&P on reification I came to this part of the
>> article...
>>
>> "Heidegger's "Nothing nihilates" has been cited as an example of the
>> fallacy of "the reification of the zero."
>>
>> Which leads me to ask...
>>
>> How much does the concept of zero cloud or determine the concept of
>> 'nothing'. It does not seem that zero is considered a reification in this
>> wiki-article but if it were, the concept of nothing might follow.
>>
>> Nothing then would revert back to what might have been it's original ...
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