On May 21, 11:15 am, kevirwin
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GDay Kev,
> Well, first - thanks for the info on the biopsy. Now I understand why
> they just don't remove the whole prostate to start with....I think if
> Immortalist saw my post, I'd have enough information to **do** a
> biopsy...
You have given me the first good laugh of the day :-)
Thanks. No tumor on the humor......
>
> As for old age, subjectivity is a key element in determining the
> degree of "horror" an individual may expect. From my perspective:
Expectation is a very creative force.
> (1) Recovery from disease or injury is elongated to almost scary
> proportions. A sore neck I recently had took 6 full days to heal, when
> at age 20, it would have been gone in about a day. (NOTE: That’s why
> many old people are cautious, I suspect. We’re not afraid of taking
> chances, we’re afraid of getting hurt and all the recovery time
> required to heal.)
My expectation has been since my twenties, to keep my muscles and
joints stimulated with hard training without the 'joys' of
unpredictable physical contact. I do it better today, and am enjoying
the situation as it is, more than I have ever done. Consciousness
expansion is the game. I prefer my state to Stephen Hawking,
regardless of the percieved contribution to the culture.
It was gratifying to discover that some of the guys at Harvard have
discovered a link between muscle %% and biological age, and muscle %% is
a matter of self discipline.
>
> (2) All the 5 physical senses deteriorate at an alarming rate.
> **Nothing** improves (and that includes intangible aspects of your
> being, like - reasoning, personal spatial awareness, memory, etc.).
You are practicing "human anticipating". When I used to, I went to the
extreme and decided to start the mourning process as soon as my
daughters were born, because it was then that I knew I would have to
say goodbye. It is good to go to such extremes in your imagination,
because the lessons can be learned (consciousness expansion) without
the hard evidence.
>
> (3) If you believe that death is nothing more than “full anesthesia
> that you don’t wake up from”, then the prospect of your ultimate
> demise is not that daunting. Existentialistically, you are aware of
> your own mortality, and as you age, you can readily see that the loss
> of a few years in the “high-age” bracket doesn’t matter,
> qualitatively. Plus, you’re going to die anyway and you won’t be aware
> of that momentous event after it occurs, “Oh Death, where is thy
> sting?”
Thats not far from my earlier ramblings 'back then".
Since then I have realized that blissfull being has nothing whatever
to do with space time or matter.
Regardless of ones 'projection' (religious or otherwise), when you are
dead you wont be contemplating what it would be like to not be, so why
reverse that now, given that there IS hard evidence of
the 'Secret' of creative thinking.
>
> (4) Pain remains the same (sensitivity-wise), but lasts longer due to
> increased healing times.
Refer to my last sentence.
> I’m acutely sensitive to physical pain and
> will do anything to avoid it (During the Vietnam war, I knew I’d never
> surrender, I’d force them to kill me).
I am also, which is why I enjoy the 'pain' of danger free
performance.The pain of exhilleration, as opposed to the pain of
injury. The crossover being the injuries are overcome in proportion to
ones 'condition'
Of course, had you have been caught, you may not have been in the
position to force your demise.That was not your experience!!!
Years ago I turned my convertible over at 100 mls per hour, at 3 am in
the middle of nowhere. As it was going over, I became 'unconscious' as
it skidded along the road, through the bush and back onto the road
again, which is when I "came to".
There was no physical injury or impact to cause that lack of
consciousness. The confirmation I got from the experience was
remarkable.I was already confident that we always get the 'practical'
on the growth journey, in proportion to our individual capacity to
learn (This is one reason we cannot impose our experiences onto
another). I thought a good 'out of body' would have done the trick,
but the irony is, if you think you know the answer, you probably dont.
Meaning that current questions are based on current limitations. The
answer is always waiting at the next level of awareness, which is
where the journey ALWAYS takes you.
> None of this has prevented me from enjoying my early retirement; since
> I **am** alive, I try to keep myself happy and those family members I
> can assist to feel the same way.
Just be aware that giving does not neccesarily precipitate
'receiving'. Give anyway. You make room for 'more' :-)
>Even if I’d like to see “The End” to
> this story, I’ll keep writing new chapters, as long as it remains more
> of a comedy than a drama.
I hadnt read this when I referred to humor tumour ....Just love the
synchronicity of life.:-)
> “Quality of Life” is of paramount concern to
> me; there’s only so much I’ll concede to age and keep playing (i.e. –
> blindness is direct cause for “early termination” and while it
> probably seems ludicrous or insane to others, urinating on myself
> [whether because of prostate surgery or some other heinous aspect of
> aging] is equally unacceptable….
Dare I say, if you dont 'piss people off " then there's less
likelyhood of 'pissing yourself off".....
As a small child ,I was conscious of the whole biological process
being abhorrent to me. It took me many years to understand why.
>
> This probably seems like some form of depression (which the medical
> community keeps trying to treat), but I view it as a realistic
> analysis of “aging and the subsequent options”.
I alway laugh when people say "as I am getting older".....depending on
the company (not pissing people off becomes an art;-), I will often
say..."as opposed to ???..
> Of course, all this – IMHO,
Life is ALWAYS greater than the sum of its parts, and from where Im
standing you demonstrate that beautifully.
Cheers....and thanks
BOfL
> K e v
