> On Jul 22, 5:17 pm, Roy Jose Lorr comcast.net> wrote:
>

>>chazwin wrote:
>>

>>>On Jul 21, 6:22 pm, Roy Jose Lorr comcast.net> wrote:

>>

>>>>Gary Childress wrote:

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>>>>>On Jul 20, 10:10 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:

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>>>>>>Gary Childress earthlink.net> wrote:

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>>>>>>>Just curious how far alt.philosophy has turned into
>>>>>>>alt.christianity.fundamentalism.

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>>>>>>>What do others think? Is morality necessarily based upon religion?

>>

>>>>>>No, however I think the reverse is true... Religion is necessarily based
>>>>>>on morality.

>>

>>>>>I agree. I think Religion has to be based upon morality in order to
>>>>>flourish. An immoral religion will eventually break down of its own
>>>>>inadequacies.

>>

>>>>Then every human derived religion, meaning all religions ever practiced
>>>>by humans has either 'broken down' or is on its way to breaking down.

>>

>>>I think if you were to take the churchmen from the time of Henry VIII
>>>(the guys that forced the breakdown of Catholicism and the creation of
>>>the Anglican church) into the general Synod of the Church of England
>>>Today, they would say it had broken down long ago.

>>
>>Like life itself the breakdown is programed from the beginning.

>
>
> Well given the axiom that nothing lasts forever this may well be true,
> in a sense.
> The word "programmed" implies an intention which is not there, though.
> In fact that's not really true of life come to think about it. Decay
> and change happen. All living systems are subject to this decay.
> Things seem to live longer and longer, so that natural tendency is
> being challenged in evolution as longer lived intelligent beings are
> more likely to improve the survival of their progeny.