> humble.life wrote:

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>>>>> humble.life wrote:

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>>>>>>> humble.life wrote:

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>>>>>>>>> humble.life wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> nikhil1home wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2:02 pm, "%%" gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil1home wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 1:31 pm, ibsham...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody thinks that they know what is justice, but what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they conceive of as justice is different from place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place. The just- world hypothesis of different people in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different places and times conceive of completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different kinds of justice. And it is by flux between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people and places that any meaningful concept of what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice can be attained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Muslim and rural Indian cultures, it is seen as justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that man bludgeon the woman into being his dog and kill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her if she disobeys in the slightest. In American feminist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture, it is seen as justice that a woman act like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harpy, treat people like garbage, get a coworker fired for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexual harrassment if he tells her she's good- looking,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal with all women who are nicer and prettier by abusing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and sabotaging them and destroying their careers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationships, abuse and emasculate any relationship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partner, screw exes in court out of every cent they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get, claim that anyone who objects to such conduct is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misogynist or a bimbo, and aim to destroy as many men and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beautiful women in one's life as one can and then claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself strong or smart or spiritual or a true servant of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman's cause. Both sets think that they are right and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that what they are doing is justice. With such extremes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world claiming themselves to be justice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> righteousness, the way to arrive at any realistic notion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the preceding is for the real-world mechanism of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people choosing each other based on how they are willing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to treat each other to balance out whatever is believed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in their respective homelands - and create a more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informed conceptions of justice and a more balanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just-world hypotheses in every component part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world. It is ridiculous for Islamists in Middle East to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim to be speaking for justice; in Middle East,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Islamists are the injustice. The same is true for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dworkin-McKinnon types in the United States. The in-good-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faith feminists have a real point about behavior of men
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Middle East and many other parts of the world (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some in the West), and Islamists about behavior of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not-in-good-faith ones among American women. But they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both have much less of a point at home. On their home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turfs, they apply a grossly imbalanced conception of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice pursuant a grossly slanted just-world hypothesis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to shape the country's concept of justice into gravely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distorted forms that lead to grave mistreatment of people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - women or men - who have done the least to deserve it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A positive match is created between men and women whose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just-world hypotheses are a positive-sum situation. A man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a feminist culture, whose just-world hypothesis would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be seen at home as slanted toward patriarchy but in most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the rest of the world would be seen as fairly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matriarchial, and a woman from a patriarchial culture,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose just-world hypothesis is seen in her own country as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feminist but would be seen in a feminist culture as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patriarchial or equalist, have just- world hypotheses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are better than complementary and that therefore can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create among them a joyful appreciation of one another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a positive-sum relationship. Take a woman from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patriarchial culture, and put her together with a man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the feminist culture, and we see people who stand to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat one another better than they've ever been treated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by other gender at home. As intercultural flux allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to make matches based on what they see in each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other and how they are willing to treat each other, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked the wrong in each culture that caused the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imbalance, and the graver wrong that is the mistreatment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of either women or men in relationships in pursuit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that false concept of fairness. And this creates a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real-world mechanism toward creating social justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between men and women, as well as toward a goal that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just as important: Creating relationships between men and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> women where both parties appreciate one another and treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each other in a manner that merits their vows of love.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The global social injustice will be solved at least in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part by large- scaleintercultural, interracial and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international flux of people for love and marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bringing together the men from cultures where the concept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of justice is an extreme of feminism, with women from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cultures where the concept of justice is an extreme of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patriarchy - even people from cultures whose concepts of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice are not as extremely off- target but still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticeably apart - will bring together people who can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate one another, treat each other better than they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are treated at home, and be seen by each other as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive influence and an improvement upon what they had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to deal with. It will also create a real-world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check-and-balance upon the tendency of societies - all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies - to go injust in one or another direction at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the expense of one or another group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were many people for a long time who believed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economic justice around the world would be achieved by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communism. In fact global capitalism did a much better and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster job by allowing billions of people in places like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China and India to rise out of poverty using their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts with global market for their goods. And it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international flux for purpose of marriage that has real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility of doing the same for social justice - while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also creating many marriages along the way where people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have genuine appreciation for one another and treat each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other in commensurate way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Global economy made it possible for international business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to move across borders to find people who want to work and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to work, and for people to move across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borders to find employers who constructively use and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rightfully reward their endeavor. This resulted in over a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion of people rising out of poverty in less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three decades and businesses having better and more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affordable products that benefited consumers and business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. By similar mechanism, the men and women being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to move across borders to find people who would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat them better than they are treated at home results
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in tremendous improvement in people's relationships, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well as improvement in gender fairness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But far more importantly, it creates a real-world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incentive for people in all societies to treat their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partners - men or women - in rightful manner, for knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there are other people around the world who would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat them well if they do not. And this breaks the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stranglehold of local oppressors and thugs - both thugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of muscle and thugs of morality - who want to keep one or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another group in their cultures in shackles so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be guiltlessly and without consequence mistreated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protectionism - attempt by rich countries to create walls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against international products - has been described as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullying and extortion. The consumer is being extorted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the working people around the world are being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullied, by the rich country attempting to protect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unearned priviledge of some of its workers at everybody
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else's expense. The communities that want to deny their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens the right to make interracial, intercultural or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international matches, are likewise using extortion and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullying to protect unearned privilege - such as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unearned privilege of Middle Eastern or rural Indian men
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to treat women like cattle, to throw vitriol in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faces, and to execute them in case they do not obey their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every idiotic command. Like tariffs and quotas of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protectionists are used to maintain economic imbalance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so the violence, moral thuggery, and oppressive laws, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used to sustain social injustice. And just as in case of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protectionism, where the greater the economic imbalance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher the obstacles that are required to sustian it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so the greater the scale of violence, moral thuggery, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oppressive legislation, the greater the social injustice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the graver the system abuse. There are many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who falsely claim that protectionism is more moral than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global economy. It is not; it is bullying and extortion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against one's citizens and against the world to protect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unearned privilege. The same is also true of efforts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any local entity at any level to keep people from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marrying people external to itself. If a country or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community constructs walls against intercultural, inter-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic or international marriage, then it is performing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullying and extortion against its own citizens and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the rest of the world, in order to keep its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens chained to partners who want the unearned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privilege of treating them like trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The greater the scale of economic imbalance, the greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need for protective barriers. And the greater the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scale of social imbalance, the more artificial barriers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are required to keep it in place. Thus, the greatest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of violence, threats, moral bludgeoning, character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assassination, psychological abuse and oppressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legislation will be expected to be, and is, done by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communities that are the most gravely injust and abusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - and to the least extent by the communities that are the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least abusive and least injust. It takes more barriers to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep people from leaving a raw deal than it does to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them from leaving a fair deal. From this follows that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater the obstacles placed by the culture to women or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men finding partners elsewhere, the greater the systemic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injustice that they embody. The more abuse, violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal oppression and moral bludgeoning is directed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against one or another group, the greater the injustice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is perpetuated against them. The greater the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need for intercultural, interracial or international flux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in order to rectify the imbalance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The people are bullied into lives they would never have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chosen if they were aware of the true range of options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before them, and are kept there by oppressive laws that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to make a commitment based on inadequate knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and false advertising life-long. That state of affairs is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> falsely regarded as being moral. It is not moral state of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affairs; it is a state of affairs based on systemic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> injustice. The disadvantaged are kept to inhuman treatment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> This things sound great in textbooks and only work for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very few people. Most people are bullies in real life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> do you know most people in real life

>>>>>>>>>>> I have come come across a lot of people in real life

>>>>>>>>>> so've i, i'm not sure it was always appreciated

>>>>>>>>> keep coming back
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> like they know me

>>>>>>> everybody loves everybody in asd it is the gift of Landru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

>>>>>> i've got a pile of Landru in the kitchen

>>>>> take it to the automat and warshit
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>> they turned it into a wine bar

>>>
>>> wash it in a nice Jaboulet Côtes du Rhône Parallèle
>>>
>>>

>> isn't their anything in the cheap bin?

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> there's some 2P cooking sherry over there
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