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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Jul 28, 2007 07:43
In years gone by, Dr. Sokal was a great favorite in alt.postmodern
(as well as sci.skeptic and talk.origins). I am going to try it out
in
the first; perhaps it will raise some of the old talkative ghosts from
the ground. Sometimes they said funny things.
My comment on what's below is that I think we might want
to consider that _real_ is not a binary question; that some
things are more real than others, waving our hands at the
possibility of some ultimate reality off in the expanse
somewhere sometime somehow to which the less-real
things approach in various degrees. Smullyan has a fellow
waking from a vivid dream; then he dies, and finds himself
wakening from life as a vivid dream; and then.... It's
turtles all the way down.
On Jul 28, 1:37 am, galathaea veawb.coop> wrote:
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Author: James WhiteheadJames Whitehead Date: Jul 29, 2007 03:43
1."When science encounters paradoxes, such as the electron... it abandons
its search for decidable truths and seeks to legitimize itself through
perfomativity. Science stops asking what kind of research will unfold the
laws of nature? and begins asking what kind of research will work best ...
"work best" means what kind of research can generate more of the same..."
2. At a recent MSc Computer Science board of study the external commented on
the use of Wikipedia as inappropriate references - but the award was given.
The same institution regards reading whole books in literature not
necessary.
3. A professor of english boasts he has never read Ulysses...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Jul 29, 2007 08:41
On Jul 29, 6:43 am, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
wrote:> 1."When science encounters paradoxes, such as the electron... it abandons
> its search for decidable truths and seeks to legitimize itself through
> perfomativity. Science stops asking what kind of research will unfold the
> laws of nature? and begins asking what kind of research will work best ...
> "work best" means what kind of research can generate more of the same..."
"Work best" often means "unfold the laws of nature in this
particular case, if you want to call them 'laws', etc."
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 29, 2007 09:05
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:43:07 -0700, *Anarcissie* wrote:
> some things are more real than others..
Would 'as real but in a different way or form' work?
The reality of a thought vs a tree, say?
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Author: James WhiteheadJames Whitehead Date: Jul 29, 2007 09:27
> On Jul 29, 6:43 am, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
> wrote:>> 1."When science encounters paradoxes, such as the electron... it
abandons
>> its search for decidable truths and seeks to legitimize itself through
>> perfomativity. Science stops asking what kind of research will unfold
the
>> laws of nature? and begins asking what kind of research will work best
...
>> "work best" means what kind of research can generate more of the
same..."
>
> "Work best" often means "unfold the laws of nature in this
> particular case, if you want to call them 'laws', etc."
>
> "More of the same" is dubious. It is true that science wants
> to keep doing the same thing, that is, sighting the mysterious,
> killing it, and stuffing it, thus causing it to yield up its power ...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Jul 29, 2007 10:10
On Jul 29, 12:05 pm, ZerkonX zerkonx.net> wrote:> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:43:07 -0700, *Anarcissie* wrote:
>> some things are more real than others..
>
> Would 'as real but in a different way or form' work?
> The reality of a thought vs a tree, say?
Paul Weiss, "Modes of being"?
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Jul 29, 2007 10:58
On Jul 29, 12:27 pm, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
wrote:>> On Jul 29, 6:43 am, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
>> wrote:>>> 1."When science encounters paradoxes, such as the electron... it
> abandons
>>> its search for decidable truths and seeks to legitimize itself through
>>> perfomativity. Science stops asking what kind of research will unfold
> the
>>> laws of nature? and begins asking what kind of research will work best
> ...
>>> "work best" means what kind of research can generate more of the
> same..."
> ...
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Author: James WhiteheadJames Whitehead Date: Jul 30, 2007 01:23
> On Jul 29, 12:27 pm, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
> wrote:>>> On Jul 29, 6:43 am, "James Whitehead" overtherainbow.com>
>>> wrote:>>>> 1."When science encounters paradoxes, such as the electron... it
>> abandons
>>>> its search for decidable truths and seeks to legitimize itself
through
>>>> perfomativity. Science stops asking what kind of research will
unfold
>> the
>>>> laws of nature? and begins asking what kind of research will work ...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 30, 2007 05:27
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:10:37 -0700, *Anarcissie* wrote:
> "Modes of being"?
Yes, good.
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