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Author: ibshambat2004ibshambat2004 Date: Jul 12, 2008 05:48
Scott Peck was to psychology what Immanuel Kant
was to Western philosophy. In the same way as Kant
had used philosophy, after a blossoming during
Enlightenment and Romanticism, to affectuate a
return to the Protestant dogmas that philosophy had
sought to replace, so did Peck use psychology, after its
psychoanalitic beginnings in early 20th century and its
existential humanistic blossoming in 1960s and 1970s,
to affectuate a return to religious dogmas that
psychology had struggled to overcome.
The philosophy of Kant - and the psychology of Peck -
employed a device referred to by Mortimer Adler as
suicidal epistemologizing and suicidal psychologizing.
Kant claimed that the imperfection of human...
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Author: %%%% Date: Jul 12, 2008 05:58
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Author: DavidDavid Date: Jul 12, 2008 05:58
sure fine
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 12, 2008 08:40
SNIP..
In short, think better and be better.
Now all as we both have to do is work out a way that we can encourage
others to follow suit. Yeahh, right...!
The funde-mental flaw in such idelogy is in the belief that somehow
mankind is 'outside' and not 'part of' nature, with all its
interaction of creative, maintaining, and destructive activity.
But, of course, that is only appreciated from those further down The
Road Less Travelled, a very 'natural road'.
BOfL
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Author: Sean ClearySean Cleary Date: Jul 12, 2008 10:12
wow!
I was waiting for the nasty turn, and it did not come!
Anyway thank you for all of this.
Sean
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Author: Just MeJust Me Date: Jul 12, 2008 11:41
> Scott Peck was to psychology what Immanuel Kant
> was to Western philosophy. In the same way as Kant
> had used philosophy, after a blossoming during
> Enlightenment and Romanticism, to affectuate a
> return to the Protestant dogmas that philosophy had
> sought to replace, so did Peck use psychology, after its
> psychoanalitic beginnings in early 20th century and its
> existential humanistic blossoming in 1960s and 1970s,
> to affectuate a return to religious dogmas that
> psychology had struggled to overcome.
>
> The philosophy of Kant - and the psychology of Peck -
> employed a device referred to by Mortimer Adler as
> suicidal epistemologizing and suicidal psychologizing.
> Kant claimed that the imperfection of human perception
> meant that it was only capable of apprehending the
> phenomenal (apparent) instead of the noumenal (the
> true); he also claimed that beauty was relative, illusory
> and insignificant ("in the eye"). With these claims he ...
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Author: Malrassic ParkMalrassic Park Date: Jul 12, 2008 11:53
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT), ibshambat2004@ hotmail.com
wrote the following bullshot:
>Scott Peck was to psychology what Immanuel Kant
>was to Western philosophy. In the same way as Kant
>had used philosophy, after a blossoming during
>Enlightenment and Romanticism, to affectuate a
>return to the Protestant dogmas that philosophy
Wank wank, you are so lost in your idiocy all you can do is wank.
--
" If I had remembered that the name 'Galt' appears
in one of her books, I would have chosen a different
name for my character."
Stephen R. Donaldson, "Gradual Interview"
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 12, 2008 23:19
On Jul 12, 11:53 am, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT), ibshambat2...@ hotmail.com
> wrote the following bullshot:
> >>Scott Peck was to psychology what Immanuel Kant
>>was to Western philosophy. In the same way as Kant
>>had used philosophy, after a blossoming during
>>Enlightenment and Romanticism, to affectuate a
>>return to the Protestant dogmas that philosophy
>
> Wank wank, you are so lost in your idiocy all you can do is wank.
> --
>
> " If I had remembered that the name 'Galt' appears
> in one of her books, I would have chosen a different
> name for my character."
>
> Stephen R. Donaldson, "Gradual Interview"
Give em something to refute man.
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 13, 2008 06:20
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:41:40 -0700, Just Me wrote:
> For example: no aspect of the law, "Thou shalt not commit adultery" can
> be brought into the laboratory for observation and experiment.
To take up this point...
Yes, the observer must move out of the lab, outside of controlled
conditions and most of all outside of the world of absolutes found, or
thought to be found, in the physical world.
To the horror of both moral absolutists and amoral anarchists, law, which
is a system of morality, is relative to changing specifics, 'pure reason'
is one abstracted from concrete. It is tied to specific concrete
experiences that guide, not so much 'good' and 'bad', but more 'better'
and 'worse' or harmful/helpful for some or for all.
Dying after eating a poison plant can be tested. A law or commandment
that says not to, can not.
> And for this reason the very noumenal quality of things like
> adultery, murder, human kindness, the Oedipus complex, any alleged
> lies behind the War in Iraq cannot be touched by the empirical method,
> which is bound to turn up as much date for as against the endless
> argumentation.
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Author: Malrassic ParkMalrassic Park Date: Jul 13, 2008 07:54
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:19:33 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Give em something to refute man.
>
>The Story of Philosophy
>The Lives and Opinions of the Great Philosophers of the Western World
>by WILL DURANT
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671739166/
>
>[C] - The Critique of Pure Reason
>
>What is meant by this title? Critique is not precisely a criticism,
>but a critical analysis; Kant is not attacking "pure reason," except,
>at the end, to show its limitations; rather he hopes to show its
>possibility, and to exalt it above the impure knowledge which comes to
>us through the distorting channels of sense.
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