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Author: rismrism Date: May 26, 2008 21:21
hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
and emotions...
it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
what "mecahnism" underlies this
interaction is still ilusive....
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 26, 2008 21:39
On May 27, 2:21 pm, rism gmail.com> wrote:> hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
> and emotions...
>
> it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
> what "mecahnism" underlies this
> interaction is still ilusive....
If you imagine 'elusiveness", then that is what you will experience.
Imagination is a 'mechanism' to (not of) creativity.
I like the interpretation of 'e'motion as that of retrogressive
motion, and can be quite infectious.
Imagination is either at he 'cutting edge' , culturally or
individually, and by definition will disrupt the status quo. In that
sense, emotion can act like a gravitational pull back to the status
quo.
Nature is always looking for but never finding, homeostasis.
'Comfortable' people tend towards conservatism
It isnt difficult to identify the mechanism. We even have scientific
back up of such activity with brain scans etc.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 26, 2008 21:50
On Mon, 26 May 2008 21:21:11 -0700 (PDT), rism gmail.com> wrote:
>hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
>and emotions...
>
>it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
>what "mecahnism" underlies this
>interaction is still ilusive....
Consider the production of the illusions called "qualia"
in the context of an evolution produced, brain based
virtual reality.
All human functions including "subjective" experiences
come out of very pragmatic evolutionary investments.
Consider what those evolutionary pragmatics and
investments might be. Recognize that all folk lore theories
are not scientific explanations.
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: May 27, 2008 04:29
On Mon, 26 May 2008 21:21:11 -0700, rism wrote:
> hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination and
> emotions...
>
> it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
> what "mecahnism" underlies this
> interaction is still ilusive....
My $.02 which I will take $.01 for..
Try to eradicated distinct separations between emotion, imagination and
actually any and all 'internal' process.
The quality of the water you drink could, well, does have influence. How
much sleep you get. What traumatic event, good or bad, from 5 years ago.
And, of course, which drugs you take. Etc and etc.
You could call these 'mechanics'.
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Author: jeskojesko Date: May 27, 2008 05:02
On 27 Mag, 06:21, rism gmail.com> wrote:> hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
> and emotions...
>
> it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
> what "mecahnism" underlies this
> interaction is still ilusive....
imagination and emotions doesn't interact!
Emotions are the affections of the body and belongs to extension,
instead imagination belongs to mental.
Emotions corrispond to feelings in Mind.
So elusive it is right!
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Author: rismrism Date: May 27, 2008 06:30
TO JESKO
> imagination and emotions doesn't interact!
> Emotions are the affections of the body and belongs to extension,
> instead imagination belongs to mental.
> Emotions corrispond to feelings in Mind.
> So elusive it is right!
it seems hardly the case that imagination and emotions do not
influence each other!
what i said was "influence" and what is in your reply is
"interaction".... is it the case
that you are taking "influence" and "interaction" synonymously? i dont
think these
"intereact" at least in cartesian sense, but of course they do
"influence"...
how? for example, i imagine that a gang of robbers is chasing me on
the street on a dark
night... and i start sweating..... here my imagination is causing me
to sweat.. imagination
is causing a state of emotions to occur....
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Author: TruthSlaveTruthSlave Date: May 27, 2008 06:57
rism wrote:
> hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
> and emotions...
>
> it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
> what "mecahnism" underlies this
> interaction is still ellusive....
The question should start with our understanding of 'Emotions' and
'Imagination'.
Emotions, i take to be our varied states of arousal. These are Hormonal
for the most part, with connections to the regulation of our biology
and the many states our brain functions in.
Imagination, is somewhat harder to define. Its easier to speak of what
lacks imagination than what has. If memory is static, then imagination
is is formed out of memory. Imagination is less conservative, an
imagination of the new answers.
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 27, 2008 07:29
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> TO BIGFLETECH8
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>>> Imagination is a 'mechanism' to (not of) creativity.
>>> I like the interpretation of 'e'motion as that of retrogressive
>>> motion, and can be quite infectious.
>>> Imagination is either at he 'cutting edge' , culturally or
>>> individually, and by definition will disrupt the status quo. In that
>>> sense, emotion can act like a gravitational pull back to the status
>>> quo.
>>> Nature is always looking for but never finding, homeostasis.
>>> 'Comfortable' people tend towards conservatism
>>> It isnt difficult to identify the mechanism. We even have scientific
>>> back up of such activity with brain scans etc.
>>> The key is identifying the identifier...
>
> It clears a lot of doubts to say imagination is a mechanism to (and
> not of) creativity?
> but raises a question, what is the difference between 'mechanism to'
> and 'mechanism of' ...
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Author: FishFoodFishFood Date: May 27, 2008 08:06
rism wrote:
> hi all...i want to discuss the possible relation between imagination
> and emotions...
>
> it is a fact of daily life that both are influenced by each other. but
> what "mecahnism" underlies this
> interaction is still ilusive....
There is another level on which imagination and emotions might be
connected. This would be on the level of reward. On this level the
reward would follow the ability find satisfaction in what one
produced.
The ability to move others, beit pleasure or surprise might be one
spark for imagination. So too the ability to sustain self through
imagination. There might also be a point on the introvert looking
inwards for stimulation, as oppose to the extrovert, taking his cue
from the external. With perhaps a determination made early in
development with the stimuli or lack of stimuli presented to the
brain in those first weeks or months.
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Author: jeskojesko Date: May 27, 2008 08:07
On 27 Mag, 15:30, rism gmail.com> wrote:
TO RISM
Are you able to influence matter?
Without interact with it?
Feelings may influence emotions?
Emotions are still ideas ?
Are you able to influence feelings?
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