On Jun 18, 7:20Â pm, kevirwin
comcast.net> wrote:> On Jun 18, 6:41Â pm, Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jun 18, 6:53Â am, ZerkonX
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>>> "But all who are not lunatics are agreed about certain things: That it is
>>> better to be alive than dead, better to be adequatly fed than starved,
>>> better to be free than a slave. Many people desire these things only for
>>> themselves and their friends; they are quite content that their enemies
>>> should suffer. These people can be refuted by science: Mankind has become
>>> so much one family that we cannot insure our own prosperity except by
>>> insuring that of everyone else. If you wish to be happy yourself, you
>>> must resign to seeing others also happy."
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>>> Bertrand Russel: The Science to Save Us from Science
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>> Pretty good argument but who decides what suffuring and prosperity is,
>> I mean how much of it? What is the situation that is just getting
>> ready to become suffering, is it the lowest possible prosperity and
>> what should be the allowable differentiation between classes of
>> properity once the defined suffuring is eliminated?
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> The first issue to resolve is the notion that "we should all care
> about each other". After that, it's all the mechanics to make it work
> (such as, the issues you address)...
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This response doesn't resolve the issue of how to and who gets to
define what and how much of constitutes prosperity and suffering. A
libertarian and a socialist sit down next to each other in a bar...
how can they work together when they define working together
differently? Maybe a universal declaration of humans rights would be a
start, but I doubt you could get them to agree to even that.
> again, not to beat a dead horse, the biggest problem facing humanity
> in any philosophically crisis is this: the entities used to implement
> any solution are, unfortunately, human beings…
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> just a personal observation,
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> Btw, philosophically-speaking, I sure would **like** it to all work
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