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If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: donquijote1954
Date: Jan 7, 2008 06:49

No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
on oil, which is the byproduct of animal species (which weren't saved
by Noah's Ark) and plants that lived hundreds of millions of years
ago, way before man, and, of course, way before the short-lived Earth
that the Bible tells us about...

"So given that oil is unique, precious and without serious
substitutes, and given that we use it as wastefully as water - which
will be the subject of another letter, oil must surely be a limitless
and renewable resource, more or less falling from the sky, or at least
welling up munificently underground, waiting to burst forth in black
plumes and fill our lives and SUVs with boundless and endless vigour.
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Jan 7, 2008 07:09

>"So given that oil is unique, precious and without serious
> substitutes, and given that we use it as wastefully as water - which
> will be the subject of another letter, oil must surely be a limitless
> and renewable resource, more or less falling from the sky, or at least
> welling up munificently underground, waiting to burst forth in black
> plumes and fill our lives and SUVs with boundless and endless vigour.

How is oil any more unique then water? While we may current know of
no way to create oil, that does not mean we wont figure it out in the
future. That is sort of like the ancients saying, "lets not use this
iron ore we found in the ground because we might use it all up".

While we should certainly be looking into ways to replace oil as a
fuel source, it would be wastefull not to use it while we have it. As
far as I know our using it verses not using it does not affect the
total supply of oil (i.e. by not using it the source does not
replenish).
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[OT] Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: Mr. B
Date: Jan 7, 2008 07:16

MichaelNJ@gmail.com wrote:
>
> How is oil any more unique then water? While we may current know of
> no way to create oil, that does not mean we wont figure it out in the
> future. That is sort of like the ancients saying, "lets not use this
> iron ore we found in the ground because we might use it all up".
>
> While we should certainly be looking into ways to replace oil as a
> fuel source, it would be wastefull not to use it while we have it. As
> far as I know our using it verses not using it does not affect the
> total supply of oil (i.e. by not using it the source does not
> replenish).
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: donquijote1954
Date: Jan 7, 2008 12:15

On Jan 7, 1:59 pm, Michael orneveien.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:49:39 -0800, donquijote1954 wrote:
>> So, don't be a hypocrite and get your ass off that SUV because it runs
>> on Evolution itself. You belong on that donkey that Jesus rode. Or at
>> least go and ride a bike.
>
> Nothing like a hypocrite calling everyone else a hypocrite.  Your computer
> is most likely burning coal or oil; even if hydropower the machines that
> built the dam burned oil.  Quit driving your car, turn out your lights,
> become Amish.

Well, if ever consider giving up my brain power, I'd probalby choose
the Amish of all Western religions and sects. They are more original,
and less hypocritical about it.

My computer though runs on a trickle of power that can easily come
from the sun if we decide to invest more money into alternative fuels.
Oh, the sun is another thing I could worship if I come in contact with
the Native Americans. Their "gods" just make so much more sense.
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: Hatter
Date: Jan 8, 2008 07:08

On Jan 8, 9:28 am, Christopher A.Lee optonline.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:23:49 -0800 (PST), donquijote1954
>
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>>The American psyche is something that the rest of the world doesn't
>>understand. It's a sort of vaudeville with SUVs and guns. A farse with
>>yellow ribbons...
>
> Shortly after I emigrated there, a couple of colleagues were
> discussing Noah's Ark. I thought they were joking and laughed. They
> were mortally offended.
>
> This is the difference between the US psyche and everywhere else.

Well, not everywhere else. I think you mean everywhere else where
people are predominately literate. A sad statment on America.

Hatter
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: donquijote1954
Date: Jan 8, 2008 15:26

On Jan 8, 5:45 pm, DennisTheBald gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought petroleum, and most hydrocarbons, was formerly primarily
> plant matter that had been trapped in sediment and covered by oceans,
> algae & stuff being the liquid petroleum and trees & stuff ending up
> as coal... but this discounts the whole abiogenic petroleum theory.
>
> I guess I'm not really sure where petroleum comes from, I suspect that
> it had to be deposited in the sediment way long before there were such
> things as dinosaurs (obviously the folks at Sinclair Oil co
> disagree). I just could live with myself if I believed that I was
> burning Fred's cute little Dino every time I lit the furnace.
>
> I'm not sure I follow the assertion of hypocrisy either. I think that
> people that don't believe that living things evolve believe that the
> world has always been like it is now and don't really subscribe to
> either the biogenic or abiogenic theory on the origin of petroleum...
> God created it on the eighth day but it was not deemed noteworthy at
> the time. But then I guess I'm a really bad representative of their
> ideas & beliefs.
> ...
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: Peacemaker
Date: Jan 8, 2008 18:05

god put the oil in the earth for us to use.
God put the animal bones there to test our faith.
Unless god says there is global warming, there isn't.
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: Uncle Vic
Date: Jan 8, 2008 20:06

One fine day in alt.atheism, Michael orneveien.org> bloodied
us up with this:
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:30:58 +0000, Uncle Vic wrote:
>
>>> Seems like a non-sequitur. I drive an "UV" (not much "S" to it,
>>> just "UV") because it goes in deep snow just fine and it holds a lot
>>> of stuff. Disbelieving evolution does not increase or decrease the
>>> performance of my "UV".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's because you think it's from God, and it's part of God's plan
>> that you have a "UV" to make use of His Great Gift of oil. Funny,
>> thought, that you have to use it to defeat His Great Gift of snow.
>
> Nothing strange about it at all.

Not until you realize that life with God is exactly the same as life
without God, except for the fact that you have more time for golf.
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: Michael Gray
Date: Jan 8, 2008 21:28

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:05:06 -0800 (PST), Peacemaker
gmail.com> wrote:
>god put the oil in the earth for us to use.
>God put the animal bones there to test our faith.
>Unless god says there is global warming, there isn't.

Reasonable satire...
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?         


Author: donquijote1954
Date: Jan 9, 2008 08:33

On Jan 8, 9:05 pm, Peacemaker gmail.com> wrote:
> god put the oil in the earth for us to use.
> God put the animal bones there to test our faith.
> Unless god says there is global warming, there isn't.

That pretty much sums up the basic belief of many Christians.

It doesn't make sense. But, hey, God didn't give us the brain to
think.

I wonder though why God gave us a brain.
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