>> Then give me another word or phrase other than "illusion" or "qualia" that
>> will be understood in the engineering causal sense, and
>> not in any folklore magic sense. I have tended to "insane delusion", but
>> that
>> might be a bit strong or judgmental. Besides I do not trust psychology, it
>> has
>> no engineering basis.
>>
>> BTW your blind man will still experience the quale of "tone". There is no
>> "tone" out there, only vibrating air. His culturally based verbal
>> representation
>> of that tone is not at all the same as an evolutionary based brain
>> representation of retina stimulation.

>
>Several considerations. Pain, Fear, no off switch. And we still can't
>explain consciousness. Is there a 'will'? Why am I alive there Fred? Why
>am I awake, and experiencing all this? How do you shut this damn thing off
>without pain, and without evoking the fear that prevents the shut off?
>Where do these come from? I'd much rather hear about how you have licked
>your own fear and pain and if you've found your own off switch. God...how
>we need an off switch!!! [your inspiration]
>