> Not satisfied with punishing Hillary and possibly helping the neo cons
> keep the U. S. quagmired in Iraq for 4 more years,
Hillary wasn't the one with a withdrawal timetable, unlike
Obama. But Obama has withdrawn somewhat from his
withdrawal timetable. The generals will be consulted.
Heh. An easy out.
> Michael Moore is
> now going after Obama's short list of vp choices, and, by the way he
> is heading, eventually half the nat'l level Democrats.
What would you expect? MM is an absolutist peacenik. That
makes him a 20%%-er. He even opposed the US efforts to join in
the quagmire in Yugoslavia (where nation-building still goes on).
But Monica forced the US to bomb there. And they say this is
a man's world. Some guys have to pay to get oral sex, other
guys just have to bomb furriners.
> How any practical democratic progressive POV can be fashioned to suit
> MM's tunnel vision focus on punishing Dems for a symbolic vote that
> the jingoistic media had convinced voters to believe mostly said
> "Saddam isn't a nice guy" is beyond comprehension.
A symbolic vote that gave the president authorization to use
force in Iraq? LOL. The excuse making continues. The last
thing the KKKahill's of the Democratic Party want is for the
extremist leftards to vote for a third party candidate (or to
stay home). It doesn't change the essential tweedle-dee
and tweedle-dum mechanics of the major Democratic
players though.
> Like 9/11 itself, Dumbya's ultra moronic quagmire is a small event.
See? This is the thing. Iraq doesn't really matter
to the KKKahill apparatchiks of the party. It's just
material for demagoguery. Bill Clinton told us as
late as 2005 that he would have invaded Iraq as
well. Hillary has never apologized for her support
for the invasion. They both had minor criticisms
of W's handling of it, but they are "jihadists" by
KKKahill's own definition of the term.
> This was proven to all but the least politically astute last week by
> the events in Georgia.
Yes, the Polonium regime menace made it clear that
Obama can't get elected.
> Spiraling fuel prices and the economy are much bigger issues.
We know, we know. It's always been imperative for
you to reanimate the Jimmy Carter high-tax economic
stagflation boom, so our excess population can all
drink cyanide-laced purple Kool-Aid.
> The Democratic Party is "big tent." Â
Big circus tent.
> Consent isn't manufactured here
> so, unlike the Repugs or the nazis, everyone doesn't always agree with
> everyone else on every talking point.
The Repugs are "big tent" too. That is the function of
the two party system. Both parties have to have an
open door policy on assholes. In the small party
parliamentary systems of Europe, parties have
ideological beliefs. Here, they have no single set
belief system. This moderates things here, anyway.
That's why we get Tweedle-dumb and Tweedle-dumber.
> Generally, single issue types are much like small party, anti-[small
> d] democratic per se, useless at best but much more often counter
> productive, even to their own pet causes.
It's funny that you revere European systems where small
parties, including those totalitarian parties that generally
get 20%% of the vote, have greater say.
> For example, to get elected, Obama may need to balance the ticket with
> someone who doesn't agree with MM on some issues. Â If MM helps Obama
> lose the election Hillary will be vindicated. Â She will be back in
> 2012 when the Clintons will be ready for the eternal jihad media that
> were viciously attacking her during the '08 primaries.
The media's left attacked her, and supported Obama.
They are like MM. That's all. They aren't the "eternal jihad
media" conspiracy. You can't blame them for wanting a
choice besides Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dum-lite, can
you?
> She'll get nominated and beat McLame Duck by 15 points.
Won't he be dead by then. So she'd be running against
Joe Lieberman, probably. Besides, by that time, her
ass will be far too big to win any elections.
> With a heavily Democratic Congress and a clear mandate from the people
> health care will finally be introduced to the U. S.
Such a thing would end the Democratic majority. They'll
hold out their corporate-state monopoly health care as a
carrot. It's like abortion that way. Success would
immediately mean the coalition breaks up.
Consider Hillarycare. It was simply the requirement
that even the smallest employers buy health insurance
for their employees. Imagine the layoffs. The mother of
all recessions. Couldn't have that. Either the "smartest
woman in Washington" isn't all that smart, it's a
conspiracy of the corpwhores, or it's just another it's
just another empty carrot promise.
> If this what MM _really_ wants?
Of course. Anything that impoverishes middle America
is fine by MM. He's one of those limosine liberal elitists
who tells the little people: "you're never gonna get rich
(because you don't have my big fat talent for getting rich),
so vote for socialism and eternal mediocrity." He hates
Americans. He's said so himself. "They walk down the
street with their big dumb smiles. They gotta be the
dumbest people on Earth." And they called him, "fat,"
when he was a kid, too. At least no French guy ever
called him, "fat."
> Bret Cahill
>
> "America needs a war."
>
> -- William Randolph Hearst
"Let's have a war!
And draft the homosexuals!"
-Fear
