On Nov 17, 6:42 am, "sarchasm" yahoo.com> wrote:

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a fundie (fundamentalist) is someone who deliberately takes up arms,
to serve in a militia, and uses force to 'convert' people to a
different religion.
Personally, I did no such thing. I am simply expressing my freedom of
thought, provoking a discussion.

being a fundamentalist is not 'fun' or happy.
attacking what is sacred is not fun or happy.

You Say I am Irresponsible ? How ?
If I was irresponsible, my conscience would never think to post a
message in the first place.
If I was irresponsible, i would surrender my job/position and fail to
carry out my mission/orders. Live like a lazy useless person ...
If I was irresponsible, i would carry out a job, without
accountability.
When did I do this ?

and you say 'asshole to Imaginary spook in the sky'
why do you say asshole ?
you hate christians ? you hate muslims ?
you believe in hedonism and pleasure,
and punishment should never happen ?
you are a pacifist ? (but you do not talk like one)
you promote love understanding and brotherhood
without punishment ? (again i do not see you doing this)
What Is Your Position ?
(apart from casual comments, personal abuse,
zero academic qualifications)

what is imaginary ?
before the creation of the world, millions of years ago, everything
was imaginary and part of the dream/plan/design of God.
the ancient greeks believed many 'imaginary' mythological gods
directed influenced events.
and today the christians believe "One God", and bible prophecy directs
these events.
and today you believe dirty politics, selfishness, greed, shall
influence events.
or maybe you believe, that you, personally, shall be a dictator over
me ?
forcing me to surrender everything i believe in ?
forcing me to submit to your abuse, and simply 'agree with you'. ??

I never said my statement was connected to 'greek culture'
I said I was talking about what is 'sacred.'

and ... Blind Faith, is =>
following a political leader or a dictator, without asking questions.
and claiming to serve a God/Government, without accountablity,
evidence, secondary witnesses.
When did I do this ?

and... Greek Culture/History is ==>
prehistoric beginnings
ancient greek mythology and gods
philosophers, teachers, kings, (technology)
alexander the great
hellenistic, golden age,
the greek orthodox heritage, the bible, jesus, apostle paul.
the byzantine era.
roman occupation,
turkish occupation
german occupation
(interference by british?)
(interference by russian?)
(interference by americans?)
(interference by communists)
(interference trespass by Yugoslavia FYROM)

Modern Day Greece
the war for independence.
the 2nd world war,
the military dictatorship.
modern day politics socialism split alliances,
spreading the greek diaspora, schools education students.

Promoting Education, Philosophy, Brotherhood.
around knowledge and intelligent discussion.

(and also, the Greek Orthodox Church must consider
the Truth of God, which can never be compromised.
the Government of God, the Designs of God,
the Punishment of God. etc etc.
Defending What Is Sacred !

anyway, again I repeat myself,
I "Translated/Interpreted" the original message posted by "Zeus"
One of the 'sorrowful' problems we have is :
soc.culture.greek newsgroup, right now, is filled with messages that
have nothing to do with good greek culture,
and part of the reason is because in these discussions 'nothing is
sacred'.

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I do not understand why you highlighted this statement and ignored my
other statements.
I do believe what I have said is true and reasonable, I did not say
any lies.
Attack what is sacred, and you will be punished.
walk into the sun, and you will be burned, regardless of your
'reasoning'.

Everybody is a Fundamentalist. The solid ground you stand on is
'fundamental' , gravity is fundamental.
without it, you are a confused loose piece of jelly.
All your politics, and abuse cannot hide you from the
consequences of these natural laws, scientific laws, spiritual laws,
etc etc.
Everybody defends something sacred.
Anybody becomes angry when that 'sacred' entity is violated.

for the greeks, what is sacred is 'alexander the great'
for the jews, it is moses,
for the muslims, mohammed.
for christians and churches, it is jesus.
and for other people, they believe in dirty politics,
dictatorship, greed, selfishness, becoming angry
over these things, 'deluded' into believing they are
important.
Whats the difference ?
Everybody believes something is important or sacred
and they become angry over it.
What is your point ?

If you believe in Jesus, you shall be saved from the wrath and
punishment of God.
if you do not believe in jesus, you shall be punished according to
the laws you violate, the borders you trespass, the sacred entity you
provoke/insult.

Punishment Comes in Two Ways.
(1) angels/witnesses/judges, decide which good people are placed
closer to a 'Prize', and which unworthy people shall be placed 'Last
in Line'.
(2) Punishment by Direct Force,
natural disasters, gun/sword, prison etc etc.

Again, I say, this is the truth, this is what you see happening around
us in the world today.

What is your Problem ?
What is your Position ?
You are not a pacifist, and you do not promote
education and brotherhood.
So what do you want ?

I assume that you simply believe in
greed, selfishness, abuse, hatred,
racism, hedonism, dictatorship.