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Author: rev.goetzrev.goetz Date: Jun 28, 2007 13:27
On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: > rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> On Jun 26, 2:22 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>> Average Joe comcast.net> wrote:>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:42:47 -0700, Don Stockbauer wrote:
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>>>>>>> Humans have free will.
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>>>>>> I believe all life has free will, plants are not alive they are just
>>>>>> animated, neither has free domain, only God has free domain
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>>>>> Everything, including God if he exists, is forced to act according to
>>>>> its nature.
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>>>> Are you backsliding into extreme determinism? All freewill agents act
>>>> within the limits of their nature, but there is still freedom within
>>>> those limits.
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Author: John WilkinsJohn Wilkins Date: Jun 28, 2007 17:03
rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>rev.goetz
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Author: rev.goetzrev.goetz Date: Jul 6, 2007 14:35
On Jul 5, 3:53 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: > rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jul 4, 1:51 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> On Jun 28, 8:03 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2:22 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Average Joe comcast.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:42:47 -0700, Don Stockbauer wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans have free will.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all life has free will, plants are not alive
>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just animated, neither has free domain, only
>>>>>>>>>>>> God has free domain
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Author: John WilkinsJohn Wilkins Date: Jul 6, 2007 18:10
rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 3:53 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>> On Jul 4, 1:51 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>> rev.goetz
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Author: JustintruthJustintruth Date: Jul 7, 2007 01:17
On Jul 6, 9:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: > rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jul 5, 3:53 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> On Jul 4, 1:51 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Jun 28, 8:03 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2:22 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John > Wilkins) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Average Joe comcast.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:42:47 -0700, Don Stockbauer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans have free will.
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Author: JustintruthJustintruth Date: Jul 7, 2007 01:54
On Jul 6, 9:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: > rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jul 5, 3:53 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> On Jul 4, 1:51 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>> rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Jun 28, 8:03 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2:22 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John > Wilkins) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Average Joe comcast.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:42:47 -0700, Don Stockbauer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans have free will.
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Author: Walter BushellWalter Bushell Date: Jul 7, 2007 05:38
In article earthlink.net>,
Mark Isaak earthlink.net> wrote:
> The
> resulting images had obvious streaks through them, which had me puzzling
> though my code looking for the bug, until I read the documentation of C's
> rand() function. The lower bits of the numbers it put out were not at
> random, and those were the bits I was using.
That's really terrible, a naive user would most likely use those. How
many bits did you have to discard before the number became "random"?
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Author: Mark IsaakMark Isaak Date: Jul 7, 2007 09:37
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:38:45 -0400, Walter Bushell wrote:
> In article earthlink.net>,
> Mark Isaak earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> The
>> resulting images had obvious streaks through them, which had me
>> puzzling though my code looking for the bug, until I read the
>> documentation of C's rand() function. The lower bits of the numbers it
>> put out were not at random, and those were the bits I was using.
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> That's really terrible, a naive user would most likely use those. How
> many bits did you have to discard before the number became "random"?
I don't recall. I think discarding the lower three bits would have been
enough, but I shifted by eight bits to be on the safe side, and
(possibly) to make it easier on the computer hardware.
I did "man rand" just now and am pleased to see that that bug does not
exist on my SUSE Linux system (either that, or they stopped documenting
it, which would be *really* stupid). The system with the bug was Linux,
I don't know what flavor, from about 1998.
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Author: rev.goetzrev.goetz Date: Jul 7, 2007 15:51
On Jul 6, 9:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: > rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jul 5, 3:53 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> On Jul 4, 1:51 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Jun 28, 8:03 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 6:05 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 8:10 pm, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>rev.goetz yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2:22 am, j.wilki...@ uq.edu.au (John > Wilkins) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Average Joe comcast.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:42:47 -0700, Don Stockbauer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humans have free will.
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