Socialization and genetics aside as crucial variables, individual
subjectivity is not otherwise differentiable and is thus identical in all.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:19:22 -0400, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net>
wrote:

For example, some people are not able to experience the
representational illusion of color, due to differences in brain
structure. Is that what you mean?

"Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote in message
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But betwixt the republics of the sincere imagations, we are all identical,
and all different.

On Aug 12, 6:19 pm, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote:

"Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational,
brutal, weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his
own interests are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in
the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true picture of
him. And any attempt to create social institutions on a false view of
the nature of man is probably doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick

On Aug 12, 6:19 pm, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote:

Does this mean that identical twins, raised together, have
indistinguishable "subjectivities"?

On Aug 13, 8:19 am, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote:

Reality is and always has been, the observer, not the observed. We
each, by definition, have a unique viewpoint. Our acummulated
observations demonstrate this fact.Our constant squabbling demonstrate
the lack of this understanding. The level of all conflict is inversly
proportional to the level of self awareness.

BOfL

On Aug 13, 9:40 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

He sure had a vested interest in that perspective. Even had a go at
poor old Beethoven :-).

"One small step in understanding mankind, one giant step to
individual awareness"

BOfL

On Aug 13, 9:45 am, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:

If they do, their wife is in for a 'hell' of a time...unless of
course, they both looked like Sean Connery :-).

BOfL

On Aug 12, 3:19 pm, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote:

It might go deeper than that. The experience we recognize as
experience, or feeling like we exist, may be happening in the brain-
stem, and hence most animal have this self, but don't have a bunch of
stuff wired up to it like limbic systems and outer cortices.

Your "3-Brains-in-One" Brain

You may have thought all you had was one, but inside there are two
more brains.

Actually, you already know this from your experience: for example,
remember a time when you really wanted to do something, but you knew
you shouldn't? The most illogical or irrational "wants" we have
probably derive from older parts of our brain, while the understanding
of smart versus dumb choices comes from the newest part. If that idea
offends you, or seems just too "Western" or "scientific", you might
take a "de-tour" for a moment and read this essay on science.

On Aug 13, 2:05 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote: