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Re: How is Christopher Reeve a hero?         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Immortalist
Date: Aug 4, 2008 22:10

On Aug 4, 9:43 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 5, 2:32 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Aug 4, 7:58 pm, C3 aol.com> wrote:
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>>> Christopher Reeve supported stem cell research which is the brutal
>>> scientific murder and manipulation of innocent lives and he tried to
>>> claim he saved lives in the process of destroying them.
>
>> Now, is a fetus a human being? This seems to be the central question.
>> Well, if a fetus is a human being, how come the census doesn't count
>> them? If a fetus is a human being, how come when there's a miscarriage
>> they don't have a funeral? If a fetus is a human being, how come
>> people say "we have two children and one on the way" instead of saying
>> "we have three children?" People say life begins at conception, I say
>> life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous process.
>> Continuous, just keeps rolling along. Rolling, rolling, rolling
>> along...
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>> ...Fertilization, when the sperm fertilizes the egg. Which is usually
>> a few moments after the man says "Gee, honey, I was going to pull out
>> but the phone rang and it startled me." Fertilization.
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>> But even after the egg is fertilized, it's still six or seven days
>> before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg
>> makes it that far. Eighty percent of a woman's fertilized eggs are
>> rinsed and flushed out of her body once a month during those
>> delightful few days she has. They wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet
>> they are fertilized eggs. So basically what these anti-abortion people
>> are telling us is that
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>> any woman who's had more than
>> more than one period is a
>> serial killer!
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>> Consistency. Consistency. Hey, hey, if they really want to get
>> serious, what about all the sperm that are wasted when the state
>> executes a condemned man, one of these pro-life guys who's watching
>> cums in his pants, huh? Here's a guy standing over there with his
>> jockey shorts full of little Vinnies and Debbies, and nobody's saying
>> a word to the guy. Not every ejaculation deserves a name.
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>>> Michael J.
>>> Fox followed suit. Pope John Paul II had the same life threatening
>>> disease (Parkinson's) and did not sell out because of it.
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>>> C3- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> Dont know what the fuss is about for the religionists. Better heaven
> than earth, and donating your cells at the same time to help some poor
> bugger who has yet to make it through the physical obstacle course.
>

Isn't the christian version of the abortion debate a form of "dualism
tyranny"? The idea is that God planned the person and there is an idea
that some spirit comes into a clump of cells when the clump get large
enough and organized enough. When does this spirit come into 20 or
more unorganized single cells in a little ball? This is what seems to
be missing, embryology;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_debate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism
> BOfL
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