Quoting Dopey Kant

"But we don't synthesize reality, make it up, it exists independently
of us, and because reality exists independently of all possible
experience it remains permanently hidden."

Sooo what dopey Kant is saying there is;

You are blind to things in reality because you have eyes, you are deaf
to things in reality because you have ears, you cant touch things in
reality because you have hands, you cant smell things in reality
because you have a nose and you cant feel things in reality because
you have nerve endings.

Ignore your eyes ears nose touch and feel because reality is
permanently hidden even from those experiences.

Man's faculty of sense, Kant is saying, play no part at all in man's
ability to help him determine the real from the imagined.

Meaning, accordng to Kant, determing reality from fiction is all 100%%
up to your mind, (because reality is always hidden even from your
exprience, i.e. your eyes are painted on) which is why the mystics saw
and see no threat to their own god stupidity from anything dopey Kant
ever regurgitated.

On Aug 11, 6:41 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Kant firmly believed that there is an independent reality outside the
world of all possible experience, calling this the world of the
noumenal, the world of things as they are in themselves, and of
reality as it is in itself. The world of phenomena was the world of
things as they appear to us - the directly known world of actual
experience.

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/ikant.htm

Ewing outlines the debate between many of Kant's initial followers and
Kant himself. Many readers of Kant object to his doctrine of things in
themselves on the following grounds. Kant says that we can...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:51:58 -0700, Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:

Liar. This is not a Kant quote. Some Objectivist you are.

On Aug 12, 1:51 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:

Geeeeeesh, I already said that, now pay attention, the question again
is;

HOW does Kant know that there is such a reality FFS, if he cant ever
know there is that reality because that reality is always hidden from
his experience?

Kant DID say that "all of man's knowledge begins with experience, of
that there is no doubt".

Have a crack at giving an answer from your own mind and in less than
200 words.

Michael Gordge

On Aug 12, 3:00 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:

I thought you dopey Kantians were happy with contradictions?

sheeeeesh FFS Sparky, make up your mind, is reality determined by you
via non-contradictory identification or not?

Michael Gordge

Malrassic Park wrote:

It seems to be someone else's paraphrase or summation, not a direct
quote. Using the phrase "hidden" suggests the paraphraser (if is is a
paraphrase) might have Heidegger's Alethia in mind. But I digress, and
did not Heidegger?

Malrassic Park

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D H wrote:

Phil Roberts, Jr. wrote:

A citation would be helpful. Did Kant really say "remains permanently
hidden"? It may not matter. Moving on...

pico wrote: