>Posits:
>
>1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human traditions,
>especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of intellectual
>arrogance whereby, the masses became...

> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:57:41 -0400, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>Posits:

>

>>1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human traditions,
>>especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of intellectual
>>arrogance whereby, the masses became 'ignorant' in the eye of those
>>intellectual elites...much like apes that a Jane Goodall 'objectively'
>>oversaw in the wild.

>

>>2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
>>communist manifesto of forceful overthrow, to become a 'softer' revolution
>>'through the institutions over decades' as promoted by strategically placed
>>new 'cultural marxist' thinking intellectuals.

>

>>3. Civil Rights legislation giving all minorities legal recourse with which,
>>anti-establishment sentiment gained power to overthrow and bring down
>>traditional power hierarchies along racial lines. Add to this surging 'anti
>>movement' the enjoinment of women et.al.

> ...

> Posits:
>
> 1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human traditions,
> especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of intellectual
> arrogance whereby, the masses became 'ignorant' in the eye of those
> intellectual elites...much like apes that a Jane Goodall 'objectively'
> oversaw in the wild.
>
> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
> communist manifesto of forceful overthrow, to become a 'softer' revolution
> 'through the institutions over decades' as promoted by strategically placed
> new 'cultural marxist' thinking intellectuals.
>
> 3. Civil Rights legislation giving all minorities legal recourse with which,
> anti-establishment sentiment gained power to overthrow and bring down
> traditional power hierarchies along racial lines. Add to this surging 'anti
> movement' the enjoinment of women et.al.
>
> 4. The decline of God in people's lives. ...

> On Jul 23, 5:57 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

>> Posits:

>

>> 1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human traditions,
>> especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of intellectual
>> arrogance whereby, the masses became 'ignorant' in the eye of those
>> intellectual elites...much like apes that a Jane Goodall 'objectively'
>> oversaw in the wild.

>

>> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
>> communist manifesto of forceful overthrow, to become a 'softer' revolution
>> 'through the institutions over decades' as promoted by strategically placed
>> new 'cultural marxist' thinking intellectuals.

> ...

> On Jul 23, 5:57 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> Posits:
>>
>> 1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human
>> traditions,
>> especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of
>> intellectual
>> arrogance whereby, the masses became 'ignorant' in the eye of those
>> intellectual elites...much like apes that a Jane Goodall 'objectively'
>> oversaw in the wild.
>>
>> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
>> communist manifesto of forceful overthrow, to become a 'softer'
>> revolution
>> 'through the institutions over decades' as promoted by strategically
>> placed
>> new 'cultural marxist' thinking intellectuals.
>> ...

>On Jul 23, 11:38 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:

>> On Jul 23, 5:57 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>>

>>> Posits:

>>

>>> 1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific...

>
> "Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jul 23, 5:57 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>> Posits:
>>>
>>> 1. Academic enlightment. Scienctific discovery unraveled human
>>> traditions,
>>> especially moral authority. This leading to a promulgation of
>>> intellectual
>>> arrogance whereby, the masses became 'ignorant' in the eye of those
>>> intellectual elites...much like apes that a Jane Goodall 'objectively'
>>> oversaw in the wild.
>>>
>>> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
>>> communist manifesto of forceful overthrow, to become a 'softer'
>>> revolution
>>> 'through the institutions over decades' as promoted by strategically ...

> Posits:
>
> 1. Academic enlightment.

> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
> communist manifesto ....

> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:57:41 -0400, tooly wrote:

>> Posits:

>

>> 1. Academic enlightment.

>
> The United States was founded on 'liberal' humanistic ideals. "All men
> equal" "consent of the governed" "freedom of speech" all this stuff came
> from or though 'the enlightenment'. The liberal John Stewart Mill being
> one of the direct influences on what we think of today as American ideals.
> So as far of 'taking over' western culture, at least in The United States,
> it is the liberal who have been usurped, as opposed to the 'liberals' of
> today.
>

>> 2. An evolving socialist doctrine, rising from the ashes of the old
>> communist manifesto ....

>
> The communists ideal was state centric economic system with a proletarian
> political center. I see this as not being anywhere near the case in the
> United States. ...