Kan wrote:
>>I am alone.
>>
>> I wrote this today, I think I'm learning more about why I am alone:
>>
>> So, let's say there's someone, who lies to himself. (And when I
>> say himself, I really mean himself or herself but that's well
>> gramatically accepted, for lack of gender inclusive personal
>> words).
>>
>> So, he lies to himself, backs up his lies with a false deformed world
>> view. And prefers to hang out with people who don't reject his lies. He
>> might be an alright person in many other ways, and maybe his lies only
>> harm himself even and no body else. Or perhaps his lies make him look
>> better than he really is, because he wants to think he is equal to
>> others much better than himself. Like the Arts and English
>> students who want to think they are as smart as the hard science and
>> computing students. I mean art and good English are nice things, and
>> intelligence certainly helps there, but... it's not really a test of
>> intelligence. And the few who have intelligence (like HR Giger or Muse
>> or Douglas Adams), create art that would have been considered
>> intelligent even if it was just a boring awkward diagram.
>>
>> So anyhow, there's this guy, who lies to himself, even if harmless to
>> others, he does it to make himself look better than he really is, or
>> just even to harm himself.
>>
>> And he's got a world view to support his lies. He prefers hanging
>> around with others who don't reject them. He never acknowledges he is
>> lying, that's the thing. He bumbles through life pretending he is fine
>> and all is fine. He may hang around with a group with similar
>> delusions. An obvious example would be the soccer-loving thugs who
>> think a guy wearing a skirt must be gay, but it applies pretty much to
>> every soceity I've met, even "intelligent" ones.
>>
>> Now, when this lying guy meets a friendly person, with similar
>> interests, who could otherwise quite easily get on with, but
>> unfortunately is too good at spotting falsenesses and correcting
>> mistakes, out of simple care, this causes a clash.
>>
>> This other guy is now inadvertantly tripping up over his lies. In the
>> course of conversation, he sees something that doesn't add up, and
>> corrects it! This exposes that guy who is lying to himself, he'll
>> realise he is lying to himself. But in fact the smart guy wasn't even
>> angry, because those lies never harmed him.
>>
>> The liar normally expects others to believe his lies. Or even if to
>> fall for them, to be unable to disprove them and just look wrong. When
>> the liar meets a guy who naturally, and expertly disproves them, making
>> him look like a fool, he gets annoyed.
>>
>> The saddest thing, is that the smart guy never even wanted to annoy the
>> other one! He just wanted to get along! He was just having a normal
>> conversation, and was listening and thought the other guy would be
>> interested and might want a little help and positive direction to
>> improve his life.
>>
>> In summary, smart people see through falsenesses, and that
>> annoys liars. So the smarter you are, more lonely you tend to be. This
>> trend only starts at the sort of hyper-intelligent IQ level, around
>> 150+, so the high IQ society says. (They only talked about highly
>> intelligent people being alone, NOT My take on it is because the others
>> are liars.)
>>
>> The liars find so many people they can get on with, and it's easier for
>> them to hate the smart and honest, than the stupid who fall for their
>> lies, because there are less of the smart and honest, so it's a weaker
>> target.
>>
>> There's more to me being alone than that, but that is a big big part of
>> it. Even the non-liars, unfortunately, tend to fit into society better
>> if they too fall for their lies. Their ability to think critically
>> becomes impaired by nasty liars who DEMAND that YOU MUST NOT THINK or
>> else they'll be socially rejected. So they fall into their trap. But
>> those are usually selfish people, not people who care, not "Freeistic"
>> people. I can't imagine a freeist falling into society's traps, not for
>> more than a few years, after which he'd go his/her own way. So anyhow,
>> what happens is that even some "nice" people become unreachable, for
>> being controlled and tainted by the beastly masses.
>>
>> Seriously, the details of humanity's fuckedupness just sprawls on and
>> on. It goes on forever and to be honest I'm not all that interested in
>> it, I'd rather think about more interesting nice and fun things, yet I
>> have to think about it because these assholes are all around me, lying
>> at me for no reason other than that they are nasty. If I don't develop
>> an immune system to it... I'll surely fall under their sewage and fail.
>> Only by pulling myself out and throwing it all back at them can I win.
>>
>
> It is so hard to know what a lie is though.
> How much of a lie is honest denial?
It's a lie, if you reject a decent caring person, to defend the lie.
Some people don't agree with me, FINE. Even though it makes perfect
sense, I don't care. They can disagree with me. I won't reject THEM for
rejecing a silly idea of mine. I only reject those who give personal
attacks on me.
But I get rejected for unwittingly disproving their lies. If they
hadn't rejected me, it would just be "honest denial". Maybe they just
wanted to think for themselves... And so they'd not reject me.
> And if you really do not know the truth - then how can you lie?
They know the truth. How it works is that most people make more sense
when you look at them as being made from many smaller parts. Physically
they are one. But on a soul level, they are one normal sized soul made
from many tiny "sparks" of selfish and evil.
Each part needs the other parts despite that it wants to oppress them.
So people dislike themselves, because they honestly aren't even on
their own side. It explains why people have such random personalities,
where they can for example like really psychedelic rock music, and
still be a nasty lying person in many other ways. Perhaps he just had a
"Selfish desire for psy-rock that hates all other things", as one of
his "sparks".
So basically, someone can lie to themselves. Only one part of them
might know the truth, and the rest being lied to.
It's a long-winded explanation for the phrase "you are fooling
yourself".
> I am diagnosed insane.
I'll take that as a warning flag?
> I do not believe I am human and withdraw and distance myself from who I see
> as a truly unpleasant species.
You are your own choices. That is the only meaningful defintion for the
word "who". Your choices in life make you who you are.
If humanity as a whole took choice X1, which resulted in altering their
evolution to give them form X2... but you however have form X2, even
though you take choices Y1... then are you really human?
If you were living with a species who take the choice Y1, then you'd
eventually turn out to have a non-human form, and look like Y2.
Choice affects future evolution. What kind of traits we prefer in a
mate, or whether we kill someone or not, and even how we take care of
our bodies and DNA.
I know that if I lived amoungst good people, I'd not have a cavemanly
skull or body hair, and I'd be a little taller and stronger than I am
now. I'd be perfect, again. For taking different, non-human choices,
I'd have a different appearance. But right now I have inherited the
other's worth, against my wishes.
> You may think they all lie - but do they? Do any of them know any kind of
> truth?
> They read, they forget, they regurgitate, they copy, and none of them have
> one decent answer to anything.
Except to say "I don't know".
Because they DO know that they don't know.
> I am loathe to agree with you that they are "nasty" - I am drawn to the
> phrases "everyone has a bit of good inside them" or "everyone has a heart".
But it depends on your definition of good. Most people describe
selfishness as good. But to me, "good" is doing something to increase
overall freedom, including mine but also all the others who are
innocent. So even if I must lose something, if it increases overall
freedom, I'll most likely to do it.
Someone who is selfish won't do that. But they'll still do things that
make them look good, or cooperate. Selfish people can be absolutely
lovely, when it suits them. They can care, when they feel we both are
in the same boat.
Once circumstances change, bye bye. That's how selfish are like.
> And yet I witness mindless stupidity, hypocrisy, one upmanship, ego,
> selfishness, vanity, bitchiness, bigoted opinions, closed minds, shallow
> thinking processes and eventually I have to look elsewhere other than the
> human race and all they represent and all they believe in.
> Right path right this right that - do unto others as you would have them do
> unto you - all their so called truths are so obvious - do they really have
> to read BOOKS in order to spout out endless mindless garbage just about
> being nice?
Not really. If they cared they wouldn't. But they don't care.
Humanity has been fighting against reality for thousands of years.
Reality itself, the "School of hard knocks" teaches them that
cooperation actually makes you stronger, despite that they don't want
to cooperate, only to steal and harm. They fight against these lessons,
and it helps that most of the other "students" are also fighting the
lessons, so they don't show each other up too much ;) So by agreeing
with each other and ignoring reality, they can get by in being selfish
and evil, even if it makes them weak stupid and unhealthy. But overtime
they still must learn. Some have less evil and get fed up quicker, and
thus become stronger than the others, forcing them to learn how to be
good.
Thus, reality itself, "improves" even the worst kind of people, over
time.
The most natural, healthy and strong nature however, is those who are
"Freeists", those who are naturally on the side of overall freedom,
without any sadism within themselves, those who do care for innocent
others as well as for themselves.
They just aren't really around here on Earth. Well there is me. I and I
am still searching for the others.
Most of them must be elsewhere, though. Well, if I had a choice, I
wouldn't be here either, so I can understand why those who are good
aren't living on Earth.
