> Kucha, Arotiri, & Knossus were all highly developed urban architecture.
> Its not what is there, its what is not: slums. Tripolye, on the Dneiper
> below Kiev, is the oldest, mid 5th mil BC, and largest, but somewhat of a
> stretch to call it a city.
>
> It was a collection of villages and towns strung out along the river, all
> built of timber frame. The space between them was deliberate so that if
> one started on fire, which did happen, it didnt take out the whole damn
> thing like Chicago. It was a string of industrial zones, tannery, pottery,
> weaving, metal work, etc.
>
> But again, no slums. There's one community that is hundreds of years old
> in the Himalaya mtns of SW China that never had a slummy part of town
> either. But all of the above were very active in trade, operating in free
> markets, often dominating them. They were all also run by women.
>
> It does not matter whether a system is extreme socialism or far right wing
> capitalism, men will figure out how to corrupt it to get the status
> symbols that will attract more pussy. Women in power dont have the
> problem. They can get laid without having to control the bodies of men,
> and when they have a kid, they dont worry about whether it is theirs.
>
> As a result, they dont craft the draconian law to ensure progeny get the
> correct support from parents. They dont pass laws against abortion, so
> that every kid that is born, is there because the mother wanted it. As a
> result, they dont have abused children growing up to become psychos. As a
> result of that, they dont have the dysfunctional people you staff a slum
> with. With women in charge, if a woman is crazy, they dont breed her. They
> may, as Kucha did, draft her into the brothels owned by the city. The
> profits from that replaced taxes.
>
> You want a free market? Kucha knew how to do it. Most of the Silk that
> left China for the West passed thru Kucha. the rest of it stayed there.
> For hundreds of years, Kucha had the best dressed people in the world.
> But no slums. They only bred smart sane women. And got smart sane sons.
> Who got filthy rich. In the world's first transnational free market.
Sounds delightful.
I guess the main thing from this is the "cultural values" .... that sets the
tone and always does.
The Aboriginals of Australia had a free market system too ...... no money,
just simple trade, joy and happiness living on the land. The longest
unbroken culture on earth lasting up to 120,000 years.
They never stole anything from any other "group", they never invaded anyone
or stole their lands, women, or possessions, [ and even if they had ships
like the Spanish I still doubt they would have been invaders of others
lands. They had respect for themselves, the land, and all that lived on it.
No environmental damage, all needs met .... and no one needed Cable TV or a
nuclear bomb or an army to defend themselves .... untill a totally different
"Protestant culture of Western capitalism" turned up that is.
Want another comparison, think China ... 5000 plus years of culture, never
invaded Europe even though they could have colonised the place with ease
given their technology.
Free trade, free enterprise, freedom of the individual to live freely, the
loaning and borrowing "resources/assets" or whatever, sure! Creative systems
and new technologies and sharing ideas and knowledge? Nothing wrong with
that. Nothing at all.
Western style capitalism as it exists today ..... Who needs it? Really?
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