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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: dlzc
Date: Sep 10, 2008 15:04

Dear jjs:
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Sep 10, 2008 17:15

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 03:56:18 -0700 (PDT), Sanny hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Black holes once created keeps eating all the matter arround it and
>Slowly eats other stars and galexies.
>
>Most of the Galaxies are having a black hole in the center. So that
>black hole keeps eating...
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: T-minus108
Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:46

On Sep 9, 1:35 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:
> The human race doesn't have the ability to destroy the
> earth, and probably never will.

Sure we do... we just haven't yet. Atomic bombs, massive drills... I'm
sure there are at least a few people that have the power to destroy
the earth.
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: Sam Wormley
Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:59

Malrassic Park wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT), PD
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 9, 5:56 am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Black holes once created keeps eating all the matter arround it and
>>> Slowly eats other stars and galexies.
>>>
>> No, that's only true of black holes of a certain minimum size. Small
>> black holes evaporate before eating anything.
>
> That's correct. The human race doesn't have the ability to destroy the
> earth, and probably never will.
> --
>
> " If I had remembered that the name 'Galt' appears
> in one of her books, I would have chosen a different
> name for my character."
>
> Stephen R. Donaldson, "Gradual Interview" ...
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: funkenstein
Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:16

On Sep 10, 5:40 pm, dlzc cox.net> wrote:
> Dear jjs:
>
> On Sep 10, 7:58 am, "jjs" wrote:
> ...
>
>> So a black hole is still a theory, and what is
>> observed is rationalized into the literature
>> because it's kinda-sorta-like a theoretical
>> object.
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.2624
> ... 4 million Suns within 100AU, orbital speed of 5000 km/sec, surface
> of last emission really close to event horizon for 4 million Suns.
>
> Observation seems to agree with theory really closely.
>

True. Neither one goes anywhere near the event horizon.
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: Skybuck Flying
Date: Sep 11, 2008 14:16

Well at least then everybody dies and I won't be alone.

Unless somebody escaped with a spaceship and didn't tell us about it !? ;)

Makes me feel a little bit better.

I am kinda curious what the experiment will bring but ofcourse only if we
don't die.

Otherwise what's it worth ? A nice ride down into a blackhole, no thank you
!

Sounds horrible ! ;)

At least I am glad I am not there... suppose something else happens like a
big fucking explosion.

At least I won't be there =D

Stopping a 5 billion euro experiment would be a waste but maybe not if it
saves the planet ? ;)

We can save the planet by stopping it... we can destroy the planet by doing
it :)

But what if something else might happen in the future and we need to learn
how the universe works to save ourselfes ? ;)

Maybe we need this knowledge to survive.
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Dense is one thing; infinitely, metaphysically dense is quite another.         


Author: Jeff▲Relf
Date: Sep 11, 2008 17:36

You wrote:
“ Keep in mind that "theory" implies that it is tested, and Ilja's
model is not looking really good in the observation department. ”.

How many event horizons have you seen lately ?
Dense is one thing; infinitely, metaphysically dense is quite another.
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Are we playing horse shoes ? how close is “ really close ” ?         


Author: Jeff▲Relf
Date: Sep 11, 2008 17:51

Re: “ Arxiv.ORG/abs/0808.2624 ”.

A true black hole is infinitely, metaphysicaly dense.
“ 0808.2624 ” says Sgr A* is “ really close ” to that ? !
Are we playing horse shoes ? how close is “ really close ” ?

In the Milky Way,
Nothing brighter or hotter than this so-called “ black hole ”:
“ JeffRelf.F-M.FM/HyperBrilliants.JPG ”.
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Sep 11, 2008 19:53

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), T-minus108
gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 9, 1:35 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The human race doesn't have the ability to destroy the
>> earth, and probably never will.
>
>
>Sure we do... we just haven't yet. Atomic bombs, massive drills... I'm
>sure there are at least a few people that have the power to destroy
>the earth.

The most those things can do is make holes in the earth, hardly big
enough to destroy it in the manner of a black hole.

The LHC has run two test beams today, but there won't be any
signifcant collisions for a few weeks, so the Earth has been spared
for now.
--
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Re: How are black holes created? LARGE HADRON COLLIDER         


Author: BradGuth
Date: Sep 11, 2008 22:53

On Sep 11, 7:53 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT), T-minus108
>
> gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sep 9, 1:35 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> The human race doesn't have the ability to destroy the
>>> earth, and probably never will.
>
>>Sure we do... we just haven't yet. Atomic bombs, massive drills... I'm
>>sure there are at least a few people that have the power to destroy
>>the earth.
>
> The most those things can do is make holes in the earth, hardly big
> enough to destroy it in the manner of a black hole.
>
> The LHC has run two test beams today, but there won't be any
> signifcant collisions for a few weeks, so the Earth has been spared
> for now.
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