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Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 27, 2007 03:50

But a military idiot. The Jews had nothing to do with Germany loosing
WWI; The German general staff, which had planned the war, didnt plan
on the influenza epidemic, and even tho they'd already beaten Russia,
now the ranks in the closed confines of the Western front trenches was
killing soldiers too fast for the army to stay organized.

But they could not admit that superior German medical technology could
not cope with it, so they scapegoated the Jews. And having lost the
war, the reparations payments were bankrupting the German economy.
Hitler, by forming a totally new government, promised to repudiate
those payments, and then, in a classic Keynesian move, his
infrastructure projects, such as the autobann, quickly invigorated the
German economy.

But even before that, the German General Staff had begun to plan WWII.
And seeing the health problem of trench warfare, developed the
blitzkreig. But to support that, they also developed a dramatically
longer range 4 engine bomber- that used diesel engines. Turns out, the
weight of the engines and fuel in diesel was lower than that for gas.
It could fly 4000 miles. Which would have been enuf to fly over the
Urals to bomb Stalin's war plants. Hitler cancelled the program.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Jude Alexander
Date: Nov 27, 2007 11:46

If Hitler hadn't been such a sick, self disgusted sexual sadistic pervert,
meth using, (more than likely) self hating 1/4 Jew, then he would have gone
NOWHERE. It was his sicknesses that drove him to his appex and but then
also brought him and Germany down.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 27, 2007 22:56

On Nov 27, 11:24 am, Michae...@gmail.com wrote:
> I not sure exactly what point you are trying to make, but since your
> facts are wrong I assume your point probably suffers the same fate.
Being more specific about the errors would help.
> It is unlikely Germany could have achieved complete victory in WWII no
> matter when they started it. Germany greatest asset was it soldiers,
> but it lacked resources. Delaying the start of the war...
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Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Nov 28, 2007 07:50

On Nov 28, 1:56 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 11:24 am, Michae...@gmail.com wrote:> I not sure exactly what point you are trying to make, but since your
>> facts are wrong I assume your point probably suffers the same fate.
>
> Being more specific about the errors would help.
>
>> It is unlikely Germany could have achieved complete victory in WWII no
>> matter when they started it. Germany greatest asset was it soldiers,
>> but it lacked resources. Delaying the start of the war would have
>> only caused this to become more of a problem not less. Germany never
>> beat Russia. Once Stalin became committed to "total warfare", the
>> chance of Germany achieving decisive victory over Russia became almost
>> nill. Admittedly had Hitler listened to his high command he might not
>> have lost the 3rd Army and possibly could have forced a stalemate with
>> Russia, but even this is questionable. Since Stalin had absolutely no
>> regard for his own people, he was willing to sacrifice anything in
>> order to defeat Hitler. Also had Hitler delay his attack on Russia
>> their is strong evidence that Stalin would have attacked Germany.
>
> Stalin's iron fist had created lots of unrest before the war. That ...
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Melodious Thunk
Date: Nov 28, 2007 10:34

In article
<64f639f2-15ab-449e-8823-cc9a197e5d49@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
MichaelNJ@gmail.com wrote:


> On Nov 28, 1:56 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 11:24 am, Michae...@gmail.com wrote:> I not sure exactly what
>> point you are trying to make, but since your
>>> facts are...
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 28, 2007 12:41

Hitler is only relevant because neoNazis are still with us. Both
Hitler & Stalin were part of what we now call personality cults, and
even back then the western democracies were concerned about them both.
If Hitler had attacked Stalin thru Rumania or Finland, Western
capitalists and liberals would not only have applauded, but many would
have signed up to help.

There is a racial element here that traces back to the Mongol conquest
of Russia, and the relatively heavy handed way things have been done
there since. In response, there has also been an effort to bring
Russia out of the barbarism, and barbaric blood, the Mongols infused.
Atho it is too politically incorrect to mention, we are far enuf along
now with DNA and the resulting hormone profile to see why some gene
pools are more violent and misogynistic than others.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Melodious Thunk
Date: Nov 28, 2007 18:39

In article
b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
> Hitler is only relevant because neoNazis are still with us. Both
> Hitler & Stalin were part of what we now call personality cults, and
> even back then the western democracies were concerned about them both.
> If Hitler had attacked Stalin thru Rumania or Finland, Western
> capitalists and liberals would not only have applauded, but many would
> have signed up to help.

You seem to be omitting the popularity of Marxism, and socialism,
among the educated folk of the period, here in the U.S. as well as
throughout Europe. Protection of "marxist" Russia might've been an
overriding priority, had not Britain been so crippled.

The neoNazis of today have no more relevance than seemingly-educated
folk such as yourself give them.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 29, 2007 03:51

My neck of Ozark woods was used by the Osage for a long time as a
hideout while they treated all other Native American tribes, most
notably the Caddo, like prey animals. the Nazis had nothing on the
Osage, who attacked a village, murdered all the men and kids, used the
women as pack animals to haul the loot back into the hills, and when
done raping them, killed them.

They had a very successful eugenics program, were noted for their
stature. the kind of insane bloodlust seen among the Aztecs was not
that unique. The Dakota were famous for hanging themselves by meat
hooks. America was a very diverse place. The Hopi and Navajo look a
lot like the peaceful early Anatolians, but that was only after the
disaster at Chaco Canyon, where when food got short, the rich began
eating the poor. Other work shows corn was introduced from Mexico a
little over 2000 years ago.

At first, there was a network of independent yeoman farms; but then
these began to be built with the houses abutting each other for
obvious defensive purposes, and this eventually resulted in the cliff
dwellings. Which nobody would have bothered with were the human
predation not such a severe problem.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Melodious Thunk
Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:27

On Nov 29, 3:51 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:


> And when you surf the stats on these small hill town schools, like
> Alread, Bee Branch, Clinton, Deer, Eureka Springs, Flippin, Greer's
> Ferry, Heber Springs, and so on thru the alphabet... if you know
> anything about statistics, the numbers just jump out at you. Zero
> rates of violence. dropout rates in the single digits. Attendance at
> 95%%, graduation rates near 90%%.http://normessasweb.uark.edu/reportcards/select.php

I realize this is one of your favorite stock paragraphs, but even you
must know that it's wrong.

"The 2005 "One-Third of a Nation" report by Educational Testing
Service said about 30 percent of students are failing to complete high
school. The same report put Arkansas' high school completion rate at
73 percent in 2000."
-- Northwest Arkansas News Source

School districts where you live, like everywhere else in the U.S.,
work to identify "at-risk" kids early and move them into programs that
will get them off the rolls for the mainstream schools, because they
receive federal funds on a per-student attendence basis.
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Re: Hitler was a political genius...         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Dec 1, 2007 11:52

On Nov 30, 2:27 pm, Melodious Thunk gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 3:51 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> And when you surf the stats on these small hill town schools, like
>> Alread, Bee Branch, Clinton, Deer, Eureka Springs, Flippin, Greer's
>> Ferry, Heber Springs, and so on thru the alphabet... if you know
>> anything about statistics, the numbers just jump out at you. Zero
>> rates of violence. dropout rates in the single digits. Attendance at
>> 95%%, graduation rates near 90%%.http://normessasweb.uark.edu/reportcards/select.php
>
> I realize this is one of your favorite stock paragraphs, but even you
> must know that it's wrong.
>
> "The 2005 "One-Third of a Nation" report by Educational Testing
> Service said about 30 percent of students are failing to complete high
> school. The same report put Arkansas' high school completion rate at
> 73 percent in 2000."
> -- Northwest Arkansas News Source ...
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