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History of beer         


Author: turtoni
Date: Mar 17, 2008 21:41

"As almost any cereal containing certain sugars can undergo
spontaneous fermentation due to wild yeasts in the air, it is possible
that beer-like beverages were independently developed throughout the
world soon after a tribe or culture had domesticated cereal. Chemical
tests of ancient pottery jars reveal that beer was produced about
7,000 years ago in what is today Iran, and was one of the first-known
biological engineering tasks where the biological process of
fermentation is used.

In Mesopotamia, the oldest evidence of beer is believed to be a 4,000-
year-old Sumerian tablet depicting people drinking a beverage through
reed straws from a communal bowl.[citation needed], A 3900-year-old
Sumerian poem honoring Ninkasi, the patron goddess of brewing,
contains the oldest surviving beer recipe, describing the production
of beer from barley via bread.

" Ninkasi, you are the one who bakes the bappir in the big oven,
Puts in order the piles of hulled grains,
You are the one who waters the malt set on the ground...

You are the one who holds with both hands the great sweet wort...
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Re: History of beer         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 17, 2008 21:56

Drunk Animals
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ypXJaLQXKQk

How about the "origin of humans" beer theory? The text comes from this
site but the page is now missing'

http://www.globalbeer.com/body_pages/Texts/History&Beer/HistoryBeer.html

Apes turned into Humans thanks to alcohol.

The first branch of the ape family that was able to control the
production of alcohol became humans. Indeed, all apes and most animals
like alcohol. In fact, they all look for it and are willing to take
risks to get it. You certainly have heard of the wild elephants
destroying microbreweries in India, dogs and goats drinking beer in
Belgian pubs, and about the wild animals in Southern Africa going for
sugar-rich fruits, that fell from the trees and wherein the sugars
fermented into alcohol. The sight of drunken animals (apes, zebras,
giraffes, elephants, buffalo, gazelle...) is very common in the season.
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Re: History of beer         


Author: turtoni
Date: Mar 17, 2008 22:52

On Mar 18, 12:56 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> Drunk Animalshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=ypXJaLQXKQk
>
> How about the "origin of humans" beer theory? The text comes from this
> site but the page is now missing'
>
> http://www.globalbeer.com/body_pages/Texts/History&Beer/HistoryBeer.html
>
> Apes turned into Humans thanks to alcohol.
>
> The first branch of the ape family that was able to control the
> production of alcohol became humans. Indeed, all apes and most animals
> like alcohol. In fact, they all look for it and are willing to take
> risks to get it. You certainly have heard of the wild elephants
> destroying microbreweries in India, dogs and goats drinking beer in
> Belgian pubs, and about the wild animals in Southern Africa going for
> sugar-rich fruits, that fell from the trees and wherein the sugars
> fermented into alcohol. The sight of drunken animals (apes, zebras,
> giraffes, elephants, buffalo, gazelle...) is very common in the season.
> ...
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Re: History of beer         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Mar 17, 2008 23:24

Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
and "feelings" become especially salient.
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Re: History of beer         


Author: turtoni
Date: Mar 17, 2008 23:46

On Mar 18, 2:24 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
> experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
> function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
> form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
> become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
> qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
> and "feelings" become especially salient.

Good way of looking at it.

It became important due to the preceived increased projection of the
"self" and feelings.
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Re: History of beer         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Mar 18, 2008 02:04

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:46:29 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
>On Mar 18, 2:24 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>> Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
>> experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
>> function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
>> form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
>> become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
>> qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
>> and "feelings" become especially salient.
>
>Good way of looking at it.
>
>It became important due to the preceived increased projection of the
>"self" and feelings.
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Re: History of beer         


Author: tooly
Date: Mar 18, 2008 03:37

"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:1l0vt3th0l7tadg4ucov3aaoncjm45813p@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:46:29 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 18, 2:24 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>>> Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
>>> experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
>>> function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
>>> form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
>>> become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
>>> qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
>>> and "feelings" become especially salient.
>>
>>Good way of looking at it.
>>
>>It became important due to the preceived increased projection of the
>>"self" and feelings.
>
> Yes, even when drunk, the idiot human likes the hubris approach : ...
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Re: History of beer         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Mar 18, 2008 03:49

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:37:20 -0400, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>news:1l0vt3th0l7tadg4ucov3aaoncjm45813p@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:46:29 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net>
>> wrote:
...
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Re: History of beer         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Mar 19, 2008 21:26

"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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On Mar 18, 2:24 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
> experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
> function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
> form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
> become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
> qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
> and "feelings" become especially salient.

Good way of looking at it.

It became important due to the preceived increased projection of the
"self" and feelings.

***Who was doing the percieving? The qualia?

***This has always been the case, as long as man has walked the earth. Of
course,the use of beer is just one example of 'artificial consciousness
***expansion'...and always followed by a 'hang over'.

***Not that consciousness expansion is artificial...just the 'short cut',
always with a price to pay.
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Re: History of beer         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Mar 19, 2008 21:28

"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:1l0vt3th0l7tadg4ucov3aaoncjm45813p@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:46:29 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 18, 2:24 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>>> Beer, as is any alcohol source, is an interesting
>>> experiment and influencer of qualia. In fact the main
>>> function of alcohol ingestion appears to be a crude
>>> form of qualia management. The illusions of qualia
>>> become very apparent. both sensor qualia and self
>>> qualia. The self quale such as the illusions "consciousness",
>>> and "feelings" become especially salient.
>>
>>Good way of looking at it.
>>
>>It became important due to the preceived increased projection of the
>>"self" and feelings.
>
> Yes, even when drunk, the idiot human likes the hubris approach : ...
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